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Title: Endurance World Championship Bikeset (W.I.P.)
Post by: Docfumi on February 04, 2014, 02:14:08 AM
HI ALL, I would like to give you a look at three bikes from the upcoming Endurance World Championship Bikeset. There is no set release date so please be patient and show consideration for the forum by not turning this post into a big debate.

NOTE: This Bikeset will only be available at MOTONLINE
All information about the Mod will be found at  http://www.motonline-france.com/ (http://www.motonline-france.com/)
Please save your questions for the authors. THANK YOU!

                                                          You will be able to download the Bikeset without registering on the Motonline website                                        

                                                                           Endurance World Championship Bikeset.
                                                                                                 Bike Models by Tchoum22
                                                                                                 Bike Sounds by JC#21

THE BMW S1000RR EWC

(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800x600q90/196/htp1.jpg) (https://imageshack.com/i/5ghtp1j)
(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800x600q90/706/7guu.jpg) (https://imageshack.com/i/jm7guuj)

THE YAMAHA R1 EWC

(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800x600q90/802/vl30.jpg) (https://imageshack.com/i/mavl30j)
(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800x600q90/845/xwun.jpg) (https://imageshack.com/i/nhxwunj)

THE HONDA CBR 1000 EWC

(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800x600q90/203/6dz9.jpg) (https://imageshack.com/i/5n6dz9j)
(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800x600q90/203/8e1d.jpg) (https://imageshack.com/i/5n8e1dj)

Thanks to Tchoum22 and JC#21 for the chance to test the Bikeset and a Big THANKS to all at Motonline
You will be able to download without registering on the Motonline website
As requested by the author skins have been replaced with carbon skins to avoid any problems. Thank you
Title: Re: Endurance World Championship Bikeset (W.I.P.)
Post by: Warlock on February 04, 2014, 03:49:21 AM
OMG !! love them !!

No kawas yet ??   :P
Title: Re: Endurance World Championship Bikeset (W.I.P.)
Post by: Hawk on February 04, 2014, 07:44:41 AM
Curious..... Why make them only available at: Motoonline?

Btw... Looks great! ;D
Title: Re: Endurance World Championship Bikeset (W.I.P.)
Post by: Harrytmj66 on February 04, 2014, 09:21:13 AM
Looks great
Title: Re: Endurance World Championship Bikeset (W.I.P.)
Post by: JamoZ on February 04, 2014, 09:43:05 AM
Quote from: Hawk_UK on February 04, 2014, 07:44:41 AM
Curious..... Why make them only available at: Motoonline?

Btw... Looks great! ;D

That`s something i don`t understand either. There is more stuff going on on there noone ever shares on here.
Title: Re: Endurance World Championship Bikeset (W.I.P.)
Post by: Hawk on February 04, 2014, 09:53:23 AM
Quote from: JamoZ on February 04, 2014, 09:43:05 AM
Quote from: Hawk_UK on February 04, 2014, 07:44:41 AM
Curious..... Why make them only available at: Motoonline?

Btw... Looks great! ;D

That`s something i don`t understand either. There is more stuff going on on there noone ever shares on here.

Yeah.... I just think it's a down right cheek to advertise a product here yet only allow downloads from their site, after all, this is the Official GP Bikes website/forum.

I think the moderators should look into banning this kind of behaviour?
Title: Re: Endurance World Championship Bikeset (W.I.P.)
Post by: RiccoChicco on February 04, 2014, 10:04:21 AM
This is Tchoum decision. If he doesn't want to published it here I doesn't do it.

And if you don't want to download something on an other website than the official, don't do it too.


PS : You can see that it's not Tchoum that advertise his mod but Docfumi, so you can't blame Tchoum for that. And Docfumi gives an information to those who want to know the progression of this mod.

PS2 : TT Mini will also be available only on Motonline, due to authorisations...  :-\
Title: Re: Endurance World Championship Bikeset (W.I.P.)
Post by: C21 on February 04, 2014, 11:12:05 AM
I don´t understand that decission either but anyway....it´s his decission.
I regurlally look into motoonline forum, so i can download it there.

The only negative on this:
If you wan´t to join a server with this bikeset and you are new to GPBikes you will be looking to DL it on the official GPB site but have to search in the Motoonline forum for the DL.

BTW:
Think of someone who is highly interested in Endurance Racing (e.g. 24h LeMans) but is not a french native speaker and has to DL the bikeset on a French homepage. Not easy for everyone...

The bikeset looks very promissing and i think there are a few people out their can´t wait to race them online.
BTW:
What about Physics??

maybe we should keep that in mind:
QuoteHI ALL, I would like to give you a look at three bikes from the upcoming Endurance World Championship Bikeset. There is no set release date so please be patient and show consideration for the forum by not turning this post into a big debate.
Title: Re: Endurance World Championship Bikeset (W.I.P.)
Post by: HornetMaX on February 04, 2014, 11:18:36 AM
Don't think we have a problem here: creators will always decide if they want to publish stuff here or not. There's no obligation at all (at least I'm not aware of any).

Also, as stated by Piboso, non 100% original content is not exactly welcome here: it's not forbidden (unless blatant rip with zero added value) but not encouraged neither.

Now we can discuss hours about what "original content" means but in any case, to be on the safe side, many creators at motonline decided to avoid "publishinig" stuff here (for your records, I had to persuade Juju to do it for the GSVR, but he accepted because it was just simpler this way than arguing with me, probably).

So bottom line is: we'd all prefer if any GPB related creation is somehow announced here, but if the creator does not want to, so be it.

Notice however that this Endurance bikeset already appears in the WIP thread, so ...

Also I see no advertising (not as if they were asking money for their creations) and anyway all mods are always downloaded from another site, as here you cannot host files above a few hundred KBs.

MaX.

P.S.
The whole notion of "publishing" is flawed, as even if I create something and I don't talk about it here, sooner or later somebody will do it, so my stuff will appear here too (it's somewhere on the web --> it's everywhere potentially).
BTW, this is what happened: tchoum/JC didn't made the post, docfumi did it (and twice, with a teasing screenshot first and a fully fledged topic after). Not sure why he did it, but he did so now you know. Where's the problem ?
Title: Re: Endurance World Championship Bikeset (W.I.P.)
Post by: Arvoss on February 04, 2014, 11:44:04 AM
Quote from: HornetMaX on February 04, 2014, 11:18:36 AM
Don't think we have a problem here: creators will always decide if they want to publish stuff here or not. There's no obligation at all (at least I'm not aware of any).

I don't see a problem neither. For other sims you have 100 different sites where you can find downloads. As mentioned a couple of week ago in another thread, it would be nice (one day) do have a website (database) where everyone can upload his bikes/tracks/paints. :D
Title: Re: Endurance World Championship Bikeset (W.I.P.)
Post by: Hawk on February 04, 2014, 12:26:41 PM
I'm not saying there is a problem with advertising at all. The problem is that why restrict the download of a file to an open mod community to a members only access website?
It's very easy to upload files to free and easy access download sites, why restrict access to a site you have to join to download files, especially a site that is in another language than your own?

Yes, if the author wishes to keep it that way then they have every right to do so.... I just think it is a bit of a cheek when most others make files available on free and easily accessible sites for downloads without having to join to get them.
I don't care who is doing this, he could be my best friend, he could be the best modder for GP Bikes in the whole world by far, I don't care, I would take the same attitude against anyone who restricted the download of their files just to a members access only site. To me it goes against the spirit of an open mod community.

However, if the forum community and moderators feel differently about this activity then so be it, and if I don't like it then I don't download, simple.... No problem, I'm happy! ;D

So guys.... there is no need to make a song and dance about this subject, it's not really a big deal, I'm just expressing my own personal opinion(Which sometimes gets me into deep sh*t. Hehe), and obviously most people here don't see anything wrong in it; I just find it's a bit of a cheek that's all.


Keep the spirit going. ;)

Regards to all,

Happy Hawk. ;D ;D 8)
Title: Re: Endurance World Championship Bikeset (W.I.P.)
Post by: Docfumi on February 04, 2014, 01:48:51 PM
To answer some of your ?´s

The Mod will be released to all despite the closed forum!

1) T22 asked for my help to spread the word about the Mod
2) He wanted a native speaker to help with translation and Q&A
3) To avoid conflict the Bikeset not be released here, this does not mean you con not Download for here - (Hyperlink  ;) )
Title: Re: Endurance World Championship Bikeset (W.I.P.)
Post by: HornetMaX on February 04, 2014, 01:49:31 PM
Hawk_UK, you are assuming that you'll need to register on motonline, that may not be the case.

Can you download this (bottom of the page) ? http://www.motonline-france.com/index.php?post/2014/01/19/GPBikes-Suzuki-GSVR (http://www.motonline-france.com/index.php?post/2014/01/19/GPBikes-Suzuki-GSVR)

Yes, and without registering/logging. So no issue at all (except for the language, which I concede).

@docfumi: thx for the clarifications !

MaX.

Title: Re: Endurance World Championship Bikeset (W.I.P.)
Post by: Docfumi on February 04, 2014, 01:54:27 PM
Cheers MaX,
The word for Down in French is télécharger  ;)

Easy and helpful - http://translate.google.com/ (http://translate.google.com/)
Title: Re: Endurance World Championship Bikeset (W.I.P.)
Post by: JamoZ on February 04, 2014, 01:57:23 PM
I couldn`t care less where or where it isn`t released. It`s about the idea. We are already such a small community..it`s a very small effort to come on here and show your work to the rest of the world...
Title: Re: Endurance World Championship Bikeset (W.I.P.)
Post by: Docfumi on February 04, 2014, 02:06:42 PM
Quote from: JamoZ on February 04, 2014, 01:57:23 PM
I couldn`t care less where or where it isn`t released. It`s about the idea. We are already such a small community..it`s a very small effort to come on here and show your work to the rest of the world...

JamoZ, Piboso stated if a MOD is not 100% scratch made he would rather not have it on the Official Forum. Please take that into consideration as we also did by not posting the Mod but giving all the info on where to get it and how.

Title: Re: Endurance World Championship Bikeset (W.I.P.)
Post by: HornetMaX on February 04, 2014, 02:25:43 PM
Quote from: JamoZ on February 04, 2014, 01:57:23 PM
I couldn`t care less where or where it isn`t released. It`s about the idea. We are already such a small community..it`s a very small effort to come on here and show your work to the rest of the world...
But they just did ! So what's the problem ?!?

MaX.
Title: Re: Endurance World Championship Bikeset (W.I.P.)
Post by: Hawk on February 04, 2014, 02:59:25 PM
Quote from: docfumi on February 04, 2014, 01:48:51 PM
To answer some of your ?´s

The Mod will be released to all despite the closed forum!

1) T22 asked for my help to spread the word about the Mod
2) He wanted a native speaker to help with translation and Q&A
3) To avoid conflict the Bikeset not be released here, this does not mean you con not Download for here - (Hyperlink  ;) )


Quote from: HornetMaX on February 04, 2014, 01:49:31 PM
Hawk_UK, you are assuming that you'll need to register on motonline, that may not be the case.

Can you download this (bottom of the page) ? http://www.motonline-france.com/index.php?post/2014/01/19/GPBikes-Suzuki-GSVR (http://www.motonline-france.com/index.php?post/2014/01/19/GPBikes-Suzuki-GSVR)

Yes, and without registering/logging. So no issue at all (except for the language, which I concede).

@docfumi: thx for the clarifications !

MaX.



@Docfumi/Max: Thanks guys for clearing this issue up and making things clear that we will be able to download without registering on the Motonline website(maybe a point to note in any future posts). ;)

When something irritates me, most of the time but not always, I just speak my mind, but I do it with the facts I have at the time.

I hope know one was offended? But hey, this is what forums are all about: Debates, Chit Chat, Solving problems, and Sharing Information....  Therefore again the forum and community have done a good job here. :)


Thanks guys for making all things clear, appreciated.  ;) ;D
Title: Re: Endurance World Championship Bikeset (W.I.P.)
Post by: Docfumi on February 04, 2014, 03:09:34 PM
@ Hawk, NP, I understand.   8)
Title: Re: Endurance World Championship Bikeset (W.I.P.)
Post by: HornetMaX on February 04, 2014, 03:10:26 PM
No problem Hawk_UK. All clear now.

And yes, the forum is there to discuss.

MaX.
Title: Re: Endurance World Championship Bikeset (W.I.P.)
Post by: d0mm3y on February 04, 2014, 03:53:02 PM
No YART R1?  :'(
Title: Re: Endurance World Championship Bikeset (W.I.P.)
Post by: Docfumi on February 04, 2014, 03:56:05 PM
Quote from: d0mm3y on February 04, 2014, 03:53:02 PM
No YART R1?  :'(

This is just a preview of the first three bikes, sit tight more to come soon.  ;)
Title: Re: Endurance World Championship Bikeset (W.I.P.)
Post by: janaucarre on February 04, 2014, 04:27:12 PM
for those who don't speak french, they are all welcome to the french site. All english speakers like docfumi and other know that we can help to understand where is what and how to do that or that. There is a tchat where is fast ever someone to help you. Hornetmax is a good translate man and other can translate to. Dont be affraid to come.
Title: Re: Endurance World Championship Bikeset (W.I.P.)
Post by: C21 on February 04, 2014, 05:02:08 PM
I´ll took your word and registered  ;D
Title: Re: Endurance World Championship Bikeset (W.I.P.)
Post by: JamoZ on February 04, 2014, 05:02:23 PM
Nevermind, i don`t want to wage this discussion here. I`m looking forward to the mod, that`s all. Thanks for showing us Doc...
Title: Re: Endurance World Championship Bikeset (W.I.P.)
Post by: Docfumi on February 04, 2014, 05:17:51 PM
Quote from: JamoZ on February 04, 2014, 05:02:23 PM
Nevermind, i don`t want to wage this discussion here. I`m looking forward to the mod, that`s all. Thanks for showing us Doc...

NP! JamoZ, I just wanted all to have a look and try and help out. I see nothing wrong with that. A lot of
guys post there mods with external links and givin the request from PIBOSO it was better to leave this Mod at Motonline.
It´s all very simple and by no means was I or any else being cheeky or whatever, I was following Board Rules.
Title: Re: Endurance World Championship Bikeset (W.I.P.)
Post by: JamoZ on February 04, 2014, 06:00:35 PM
It wasn`t directed at you personally Doc, it`s just the attitude of some people over there that leave a bad taste in my mouth. I don`t know where that came from, but it`s like some people over there have problems with us over here.



Title: Re: Endurance World Championship Bikeset (W.I.P.)
Post by: RiccoChicco on February 04, 2014, 06:14:05 PM
Quote from: JamoZ on February 04, 2014, 06:00:35 PM
It wasn`t directed at you personally Doc, it`s just the attitude of some people over there that leave a bad taste in my mouth. I don`t know where that came from, but it`s like some people over there have problems with us over here.

If you have problems with someone, contact him in PM.

Title: Re: Endurance World Championship Bikeset (W.I.P.)
Post by: JamoZ on February 04, 2014, 06:26:13 PM
Na, i don`t have problems with anyone. I`m a loving guy. But it would be wise to spread those words over there aswell. I don`t like it when people talk behind my (our) backs...

I`m out of this discussion  8)

Title: Re: Endurance World Championship Bikeset (W.I.P.)
Post by: HornetMaX on February 04, 2014, 08:49:20 PM
Quote from: JamoZ on February 04, 2014, 06:26:13 PM
Na, i don`t have problems with anyone. I`m a loving guy. But it would be wise to spread those words over there aswell. I don`t like it when people talk behind my (our) backs...

What's that catfight thing ? Some sort of medieval duel between racing teams that will be sorted out on the track ?
RTH vs Frog Eaters on a neutral server hosted by dibu in Kartoffelnland ?

It's not even possible due to the online issues (sorry, can't resist, had to stick this in :) )...

Peace my friends, peace.

MaX.

P.S.
@docfumi: never put again a line saying "please don't go off-topic in my topic".  ;D
Title: Re: Endurance World Championship Bikeset (W.I.P.)
Post by: Warlock on February 04, 2014, 09:25:29 PM
Quote from: HornetMaX on February 04, 2014, 08:49:20 PM
What's that catfight thing ? Some sort of medieval duel between racing teams that will be sorted out on the track ?
RTH vs Frog Eaters on a neutral server hosted by dibu in Kartoffelnland ?

It's not even possible due to the online issues (sorry, can't resist, had to stick this in :) )...

Peace my friends, peace.

MaX.


LOL !  ;D

Title: Re: Endurance World Championship Bikeset (W.I.P.)
Post by: r1rossi on March 11, 2014, 11:02:36 PM
I hate to jump in on this, Will there be a R1 available ?

Thanks
Rya
Title: Re: Endurance World Championship Bikeset (W.I.P.)
Post by: RiccoChicco on March 11, 2014, 11:14:47 PM
Did you read the first post??   ???

Quote from: docfumi on February 04, 2014, 02:14:08 AM

THE YAMAHA R1 EWC

(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800x600q90/802/vl30.jpg) (https://imageshack.com/i/mavl30j)
(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800x600q90/845/xwun.jpg) (https://imageshack.com/i/nhxwunj)

Title: Re: Endurance World Championship Bikeset (W.I.P.)
Post by: r1rossi on March 11, 2014, 11:59:51 PM
Yes. I saw the pictures etc, However I searched HIgh and low to find the link to download and haven't seen it,

Could you either post link or info please?

Thanks

Ryan
Title: Re: Endurance World Championship Bikeset (W.I.P.)
Post by: HornetMaX on March 12, 2014, 12:34:38 AM
Quote from: r1rossi on March 11, 2014, 11:59:51 PM
Yes. I saw the pictures etc, However I searched HIgh and low to find the link to download and haven't seen it,
Because it's not there yet.

MaX.
Title: Re: Endurance World Championship Bikeset (W.I.P.)
Post by: r1rossi on March 12, 2014, 01:55:11 AM
thank you
Title: Re: Endurance World Championship Bikeset (W.I.P.)
Post by: r1rossi on March 20, 2014, 10:12:04 PM
any updates?
Title: Re: Endurance World Championship Bikeset (W.I.P.)
Post by: C21 on March 21, 2014, 07:21:55 AM
They were testing on a server yesterday  ;)
Please take note that most if not all of the modders have full time jobs and are doing their modding work in their free time....
Developing a mod takes time....
Title: Re: Endurance World Championship Bikeset (W.I.P.)
Post by: r1rossi on March 21, 2014, 10:49:21 PM
Yes, I respect everyone for doing all of this as it I am sure is not easy and very time consuming, I have an R1 and I cannot wait to ride lol :) 5ft of snow here ;(

Just want to ride that R1 :)
Title: Re: Endurance World Championship Bikeset (W.I.P.)
Post by: C21 on March 25, 2014, 07:57:48 PM
QuoteTéléchargement :
Date de sortie : 25/04/2014
;D

I hope this answer all questions....("i wan´t to ride", "when can i download", "is it available", etc...)
Title: Re: Endurance World Championship Bikeset (W.I.P.)
Post by: r1rossi on March 26, 2014, 01:41:55 AM
april 25 will be ready?

Thanks
Title: Re: Endurance World Championship Bikeset (W.I.P.)
Post by: r1rossi on April 01, 2014, 12:20:17 AM
This is killing me lol , I CANNOT WAIT LOL\


You guys are SO good at this stuff
Title: Re: Endurance World Championship Bikeset (W.I.P.)
Post by: r1rossi on April 19, 2014, 11:13:46 PM
I will pay for a early release:) lol
Title: Re: Endurance World Championship Bikeset (W.I.P.)
Post by: JamoZ on April 20, 2014, 12:27:11 PM
(http://www.polyvore.com/cgi/img-thing?.out=jpg&size=l&tid=1689228)
Title: Re: Endurance World Championship Bikeset (W.I.P.)
Post by: r1rossi on April 22, 2014, 05:21:37 PM
lol funny....


Quote from: JamoZ on April 20, 2014, 12:27:11 PM
(http://www.polyvore.com/cgi/img-thing?.out=jpg&size=l&tid=1689228)
Title: Re: Endurance World Championship Bikeset (W.I.P.)
Post by: Gzehoo on April 22, 2014, 05:24:57 PM
Damn, be patient please! Do you really need to write the same message in this topic because you can't wait? I also can't wait to try this bike but I know that bike authors could not have a time to work on this bike or release it.
Title: Re: Endurance World Championship Bikeset (W.I.P.)
Post by: Abigor on April 22, 2014, 05:55:07 PM
Yoooo r1rossi......I have the feeling that this bikeset will be deleted 7 days  ;D
Title: Re: Endurance World Championship Bikeset (W.I.P.)
Post by: JamoZ on April 22, 2014, 06:00:48 PM
yes, they just confirmed that the release will take at least another month  8)
Title: Re: Endurance World Championship Bikeset (W.I.P.)
Post by: RiccoChicco on April 22, 2014, 06:08:02 PM
Not a month, a week.
Title: Re: Endurance World Championship Bikeset (W.I.P.)
Post by: JamoZ on April 22, 2014, 06:23:23 PM
Quote from: RiccoChicco on April 22, 2014, 06:08:02 PM
Not a month, a week.

Dammit, play along Ricco :P
Title: Re: Endurance World Championship Bikeset (W.I.P.)
Post by: BOBR6 84 on April 22, 2014, 08:15:42 PM
Just interested about the R1!
Will it have its own engine character? (crossplain crank) power delivery? Or will it be the same as the maurasama? Just curious..
Title: Re: Endurance World Championship Bikeset (W.I.P.)
Post by: RiccoChicco on April 22, 2014, 09:45:09 PM
Nope, Murasama physics for the first realease!  :)

Quote from: JamoZ on April 22, 2014, 06:23:23 PM
Dammit, play along Ricco :P

;D
Title: Re: Endurance World Championship Bikeset (W.I.P.)
Post by: HornetMaX on April 22, 2014, 10:20:02 PM
Quote from: BOBR6 84 on April 22, 2014, 08:15:42 PM
Just interested about the R1!
Will it have its own engine character? (crossplain crank) power delivery? Or will it be the same as the maurasama? Just curious..
You'll never be able to tell a crossplane from a screamer by the power delivery unless you have very very sophisticated instruments on the bike (and even then it's not sure).

MaX.
Title: Re: Endurance World Championship Bikeset (W.I.P.)
Post by: BOBR6 84 on April 22, 2014, 10:48:34 PM
Apart from the masses of bottom end torque and mechanical grip out of corners I agree lol :)

Dont worry though im not complaining! I like the 990.. And im looking forward to the mod! The bikes look very very nice!
Title: Re: Endurance World Championship Bikeset (W.I.P.)
Post by: HornetMaX on April 22, 2014, 10:58:04 PM
Quote from: BOBR6 84 on April 22, 2014, 10:48:34 PM
Apart from the masses of bottom end torque and mechanical grip out of corners I agree lol :)
The masses of bottom end torque compared to what ? Against other 1000cc 4cyl WSBK engines I doubt there's any difference (not to say against v4s).
Was the same for the 600 WSS: all the 4cyl are nearly identical.

The mechanical grip (which, btw, on the road bike is just marketing hype) is the thing that is not possible to model within the limited resources of a game.
It would require an extremely detailed model of the tire, just unthinkable.

Most likely, the only thing one could make specific to this bike is the sound, which is indeed peculiar.

MaX.
Title: Re: Endurance World Championship Bikeset (W.I.P.)
Post by: BOBR6 84 on April 22, 2014, 11:36:00 PM
Yes I agree the overall performance of the bikes is obviously close, but how much do the electronics play a part in all that?
All I know is the big bang R1 feels alot different to most 1000cc bikes! Its just how it delivers the power it feels different.. It feels smoother but harder if that makes any sense lol

Alot of people say the R1 is better without electronics!

Title: Re: Endurance World Championship Bikeset (W.I.P.)
Post by: HornetMaX on April 23, 2014, 12:39:13 AM
Quote from: BOBR6 84 on April 22, 2014, 11:36:00 PM
Yes I agree the overall performance of the bikes is obviously close, but how much do the electronics play a part in all that?
All I know is the big bang R1 feels alot different to most 1000cc bikes! Its just how it delivers the power it feels different.. It feels smoother but harder if that makes any sense lol

Alot of people say the R1 is better without electronics!
I haven't  tried an R1 and anyway I wouldn't be able to judge, but the whole crossplane thing is 90% marketing: honda with the v5 had essentially a crossplane engine, but nobody called it crossplane so nobody cared (and I think others had crossplane engines before). Yamaha decided that, on top of some advantages  (in extreme racing conditions, for sure not on the road), giving the thing a catchy name, i.e. brand it, would help sales. And guess what, they were right (no big news).

I may be wrong, but I suspect that the "smoother but harder" thing is mostly a placebo effect one has after listening to the explanation of why a crossplane is (supposedly) better than a screamer.

If you read the official Yamaha documentation about the crossplane technology (hmm), the real advantage (for motgp bikes) is never mentioned: they talk about better balancing of inertia forces, or combining the positive carachteristics of a 2cyl and a 4cyl into a 3cyl crossplane (hmm, yeah). Nowhere they talk about the impact on tires (the real advantage): probably because for a street bike with street tires (or even race tires, but not top of the tech like motogp/wsb) the impact is zero.

But have to admit that a crossplane sounds nice: both as a name and as engine sound :)

MaX.
Title: Re: Endurance World Championship Bikeset (W.I.P.)
Post by: BOBR6 84 on April 23, 2014, 01:20:36 AM
Yes its all marketing!

''the new R1 with motogp technology straight from rossi's M1'' hahahaha

My friend bought a brand new R6 stock roadbike to convert to a racebike..

Yamaha claim its at 120bhp or around there..
My mate had it on the dyno at 108bhp hahaha

I found the r1 diffcult to ride on the road compared to my blade.. Engine feels completely different. On the track its a missile coming out of tight slow corners!
In comparison the new zx10 is more like a 600 its got nothing unless u are high up in the revs..

Title: Re: Endurance World Championship Bikeset (W.I.P.)
Post by: C21 on April 23, 2014, 06:22:25 AM
[OT]
QuoteMy friend bought a brand new R6 stock roadbike to convert to a racebike..
Yamaha claim its at 120bhp or around there..
My mate had it on the dyno at 108bhp hahaha
which model year?
Yamaha measured the power output in a different way  ;)
Title: Re: Endurance World Championship Bikeset (W.I.P.)
Post by: HornetMaX on April 23, 2014, 12:05:28 PM
Quote from: BOBR6 84 on April 23, 2014, 01:20:36 AM
Yes its all marketing!

''the new R1 with motogp technology straight from rossi's M1'' hahahaha

Quote from: BOBR6 84 on April 23, 2014, 01:20:36 AM
I found the r1 diffcult to ride on the road compared to my blade.. Engine feels completely different. On the track its a missile coming out of tight slow corners!
In comparison the new zx10 is more like a 600 its got nothing unless u are high up in the revs..
For sure there may be engine feeling differences on the stock bikes, but it's very unlikely they come from the engine being crossplane or not.

Quote from: C21 on April 23, 2014, 06:22:25 AM
[OT]
QuoteMy friend bought a brand new R6 stock roadbike to convert to a racebike..
Yamaha claim its at 120bhp or around there..
My mate had it on the dyno at 108bhp hahaha
which model year?
Yamaha measured the power output in a different way  ;)
Yep, that's what they say when they cheat on the output power :)

Most of the time they measure it at the crankshaft (engine output, before clutch, gearbox and final transmission).
So 120bhp at crankshaft vs 108bhp at the wheel seems legit (10% loss, nice and round).

MaX.
Title: Re: Endurance World Championship Bikeset (W.I.P.)
Post by: RBp on April 23, 2014, 05:27:39 PM
Quote from: BOBR6 84 on April 23, 2014, 01:20:36 AM
Yes its all marketing!

''the new R1 with motogp technology straight from rossi's M1'' hahahaha

My friend bought a brand new R6 stock roadbike to convert to a racebike..

Yamaha claim its at 120bhp or around there..
My mate had it on the dyno at 108bhp hahaha

I found the r1 diffcult to ride on the road compared to my blade.. Engine feels completely different. On the track its a missile coming out of tight slow corners!
In comparison the new zx10 is more like a 600 its got nothing unless u are high up in the revs..

Fly by wire to sensitive, I backed mine off, no rattle plate in clutch make it sound horrid pulling away at times, needs riding more like a twin I find with a gear higher needed the same with the down shift the back get scitish if you ride it like a normal inline 4.

Yamaha claim 120 bhp but that motor they tested wont have the slack tolerance that the mass produced motor do, 

I found the zx10 harder to ride fast with the power curve at higher rpm on the road but it a pussy cat at low rpm,   
Title: Re: Endurance World Championship Bikeset (W.I.P.)
Post by: r1rossi on April 25, 2014, 02:28:08 AM
No worries guys, take your time . Busy next few weeks for me :(
I have a 2012 r1 and love it , I had older r1 and older r6 before. Nothing compares to it
Title: Re: Endurance World Championship Bikeset (W.I.P.)
Post by: Lids on April 29, 2014, 06:13:32 AM
Is there a download for these bikes? I didn't see it on that website.
Title: Re: Endurance World Championship Bikeset (W.I.P.)
Post by: C21 on April 29, 2014, 06:50:30 AM
QuoteIs there a download for these bikes? I didn't see it on that website.
IT´S NOT RELEASED YET!!!
Title: Re: Endurance World Championship Bikeset (W.I.P.)
Post by: Hawk on April 29, 2014, 07:51:12 AM
Quote from: Lids on April 29, 2014, 06:13:32 AM
Is there a download for these bikes? I didn't see it on that website.

Hi Lids.
When you see a forum thread title with "WIP" in the title, this means "Work in Progress". These threads are posted so the community can see what is being developed and follow its progress. When the work is finished, then usually a new thread is created telling the community of the product release and including a download link; they may also post a download link in the WIP thread in the 1st post of the thread.

Hope this helps.  ;)
Title: Re: Endurance World Championship Bikeset (W.I.P.)
Post by: C21 on April 29, 2014, 08:02:55 AM
You´re so gentle Hawk.... ;D
Sorry for my rudeness.... :-X
Title: Re: Endurance World Championship Bikeset (W.I.P.)
Post by: Hawk on April 29, 2014, 08:16:57 AM
Quote from: C21 on April 29, 2014, 08:02:55 AM
You´re so gentle Hawk.... ;D
Sorry for my rudeness.... :-X

LOL... I guess we all have our moments C.  ;)

Did you get up out the wrong side of the bed this morning mate? Hehe
Title: Re: Endurance World Championship Bikeset (W.I.P.)
Post by: HornetMaX on April 29, 2014, 09:04:45 AM
Quote from: Hawk_UK on April 29, 2014, 08:16:57 AM
Quote from: C21 on April 29, 2014, 08:02:55 AM
You´re so gentle Hawk.... ;D
Sorry for my rudeness.... :-X

LOL... I guess we all have our moments C.  ;)
Nooo, really ?

:)

MaX.
Title: Re: Endurance World Championship Bikeset (W.I.P.)
Post by: doubledragoncc on April 29, 2014, 03:29:27 PM
Maybe we should start a thread called "GPBikes Forum Bloopers" its fun reading some of the comments lol
Title: Re: Endurance World Championship Bikeset (W.I.P.)
Post by: Hawk on April 29, 2014, 04:44:29 PM
Quote from: HornetMaX on April 29, 2014, 09:04:45 AM
Quote from: Hawk_UK on April 29, 2014, 08:16:57 AM
Quote from: C21 on April 29, 2014, 08:02:55 AM
You´re so gentle Hawk.... ;D
Sorry for my rudeness.... :-X

LOL... I guess we all have our moments C.  ;)
Nooo, really ?

:)

MaX.

I think the phrase, "Some real Klangers" is probably ringing in your ears, Max? Hehe ;D ;D
Title: Re: Endurance World Championship Bikeset (W.I.P.)
Post by: HornetMaX on April 29, 2014, 04:57:07 PM
Quote from: Hawk_UK on April 29, 2014, 04:44:29 PM
I think the phrase, "Some real Klangers" is probably ringing in your ears, Max? Hehe ;D ;D
Not really, doesn't sound scottish enough so I can't appreciate the intended meaning.
But I trust you it was funny so I'm gonna have beer and crisps to celebrate. Cheers :)

MaX.
Title: Re: Endurance World Championship Bikeset (W.I.P.)
Post by: Lids on May 04, 2014, 11:00:32 AM
I can't wait for these bikes to come out. They look just fantastic!
Title: Re: Endurance World Championship Bikeset (W.I.P.)
Post by: Alone on May 04, 2014, 11:55:20 AM
Be Patient, listen lateralus in the meanwhile :D (just kidding) Tool´s signature. Cool! :)
Title: Re: Endurance World Championship Bikeset (W.I.P.)
Post by: Klax75 on May 04, 2014, 12:05:36 PM
Quote from: Alone on May 04, 2014, 11:55:20 AM
Be Patient, listen lateralus in the meanwhile :D (just kidding) Tool´s signature. Cool! :)

I much prefer the older Aenima over Laterlasu. But I'm older and younger people seem to gravitate towards Laterlasu. :)
Title: Re: Endurance World Championship Bikeset (W.I.P.)
Post by: Alone on May 04, 2014, 12:15:58 PM
Quote from: Klax75 on May 04, 2014, 12:05:36 PM
Quote from: Alone on May 04, 2014, 11:55:20 AM
Be Patient, listen lateralus in the meanwhile :D (just kidding) Tool´s signature. Cool! :)

I much prefer the older Aenima over Laterlasu. But I'm older and younger people seem to gravitate towards Laterlasu. :)

LOL I prefer for long Aenima too (I guess that I´m only 2 years younger tan you), but it was only for 2 reasons: "patient" is a track from Lat. and the disc is soooooooo long :D :D

Sorry for the off topic
Title: Re: Endurance World Championship Bikeset (W.I.P.)
Post by: r1rossi on May 04, 2014, 02:06:54 PM
Looking forward to it all, Any approx release dates?
Title: Re: Endurance World Championship Bikeset (W.I.P.)
Post by: Lids on May 04, 2014, 09:03:16 PM
Quote from: Alone on May 04, 2014, 11:55:20 AM
Be Patient, listen lateralus in the meanwhile :D (just kidding) Tool´s signature. Cool! :)

It's an Alex grey painting for the book the spirit molecule.
Title: Re: Endurance World Championship Bikeset (W.I.P.)
Post by: YAC on May 17, 2014, 12:49:53 AM
Black is not the best choice, without strong ligth it hide all :/ ,what a shame for a beautifull work ;)
http://forum.motonline-france.com/viewtopic.php?f=90&t=1670 here it's better :D
Title: Re: Endurance World Championship Bikeset (W.I.P.)
Post by: C21 on May 17, 2014, 05:26:25 PM
Hmm...if i look close i see.......Black Bikes... ???
What do you want to express with the link?
Title: Re: Endurance World Championship Bikeset (W.I.P.)
Post by: YAC on May 18, 2014, 10:29:06 AM
This a beautifull work, on the link there is more shiny views, it's more appealing ! mat black hides all the shapes :-\
Title: Re: Endurance World Championship Bikeset (W.I.P.)
Post by: r1rossi on May 28, 2014, 01:33:37 PM
Still no updates??? Anything I can do to help??
Title: Re: Endurance World Championship Bikeset (W.I.P.)
Post by: GhostdogNL on June 08, 2014, 05:34:29 AM
Wauw... more than 6 months...  :'(
Title: Re: Endurance World Championship Bikeset (W.I.P.)
Post by: Hawk on June 08, 2014, 10:38:50 AM
Quote from: GhostdogNL on June 08, 2014, 05:34:29 AM
Wauw... more than 6 months...  :'(

I believe Docfumi is still away on tour at the moment from what I've read in past forum posts...... Not sure when he'll be back in the fold.
Title: Re: Endurance World Championship Bikeset (W.I.P.)
Post by: HornetMaX on June 08, 2014, 12:57:51 PM
Quote from: Hawk_UK on June 08, 2014, 10:38:50 AM
Quote from: GhostdogNL on June 08, 2014, 05:34:29 AM
Wauw... more than 6 months...  :'(

I believe Docfumi is still away on tour at the moment from what I've read in past forum posts...... Not sure when he'll be back in the fold.
But the authours are Tchoum21 and others from the french forum ...

Anyway, AFAIK they are working on the physics too so it will take longer.

MaX.
Title: Re: Endurance World Championship Bikeset (W.I.P.)
Post by: Hawk on June 08, 2014, 01:18:50 PM
Quote from: HornetMaX on June 08, 2014, 12:57:51 PM
Quote from: Hawk_UK on June 08, 2014, 10:38:50 AM
Quote from: GhostdogNL on June 08, 2014, 05:34:29 AM
Wauw... more than 6 months...  :'(

I believe Docfumi is still away on tour at the moment from what I've read in past forum posts...... Not sure when he'll be back in the fold.
But the authours are Tchoum21 and others from the french forum ...

Anyway, AFAIK they are working on the physics too so it will take longer.

MaX.

Sorry.... My mistake. I should have read the first post fully but just presumed seeing as it was Docfumi who created the thread, that this was his baby. I'm must be getting lazy in my old age. :P

Btw Max..... I know I'm getting on a bit and not up to speed with these modern abbreviations, but what the hell does "AFAIK" mean? We are getting more like the Americans everyday! Lol

Hawk.
Title: Re: Endurance World Championship Bikeset (W.I.P.)
Post by: HornetMaX on June 08, 2014, 01:24:24 PM
As Far As I Know.

I'm not a big fan of SMS-like abbreviations neither, but sometimes I'm lazy :)

MaX.
Title: Re: Endurance World Championship Bikeset (W.I.P.)
Post by: r1rossi on June 15, 2014, 04:07:21 PM
:( any updates boys ;(
Title: Re: Endurance World Championship Bikeset (W.I.P.)
Post by: C21 on June 15, 2014, 06:07:31 PM
No!
They're still working on the physics AND Doing this on their Free Time...
Title: Re: Endurance World Championship Bikeset (W.I.P.)
Post by: Daniel_F on June 24, 2014, 01:55:45 PM
its so damn cool to have a full set of bikes (like we have the wss now ) in same cat rly nice !!
Title: Re: Endurance World Championship Bikeset (W.I.P.)
Post by: r1rossi on June 27, 2014, 02:05:56 AM
Hey guys, Will this be available for Beta5b ?
Title: Re: Endurance World Championship Bikeset (W.I.P.)
Post by: C21 on June 27, 2014, 07:31:52 AM
Of course it will but it now takes even more time to adjust for 5B (or following) because it was developed with B4B as base.
Guys.....you will be informed when there is the time to ride this beautiful bikes.....
it won´t get faster if every week someone is asking where to DL or anything else.......
Title: Re: Endurance World Championship Bikeset (W.I.P.)
Post by: Gzehoo on June 27, 2014, 04:05:45 PM
The problem is that only one person can't stop asking questions like when it will be released? or any news/updates?. It's annoying and confusing because when I want to read new posts I see only the same messages from the same person.

Guys, please. If you don't have anything meaningful to write (even questions like when it will be released?), JUST DON'T WRITE HERE!!!

Cheers
Title: Re: Endurance World Championship Bikeset (W.I.P.)
Post by: Shotta247 on June 29, 2014, 03:37:23 AM
Hi everybody, Im the late comer here! How do I sign up for this "Endurance World Championship" or qualify for it. (I just wanna race, Im tired of riding by myself). The next thing, can US racers get in on these races with you guys? Great work as usual too with the bikes they look wicked.
Title: Re: Endurance World Championship Bikeset (W.I.P.)
Post by: Gzehoo on June 29, 2014, 08:01:58 AM
It's not championship topic, it's about bikeset from EWC. About championship - go to Racing section on this forum.
Title: Re: Endurance World Championship Bikeset (W.I.P.)
Post by: r1rossi on August 01, 2014, 03:51:34 PM
I was really looking forward to these bikes, any updates? Anything I can help with>?
Title: Re: Endurance World Championship Bikeset (W.I.P.)
Post by: JamoZ on August 01, 2014, 04:20:11 PM
Hey MaX, i found a candidate for that insta-ban....
Title: Re: Endurance World Championship Bikeset (W.I.P.)
Post by: HornetMaX on August 01, 2014, 05:17:06 PM
Too much work, easier to reply this time:

Quote from: r1rossi on August 01, 2014, 03:51:34 PM
I was really looking forward to these bikes, any updates? Anything I can help with>?

No. No.

MaX.
Title: Re: Endurance World Championship Bikeset (W.I.P.)
Post by: r1rossi on August 03, 2014, 09:55:37 PM
I am asking if any help is needed you know that right? No need to be rude to try and ban me....

I am merely looking forward to this and offering help doesn't seem so rude
Title: Re: Endurance World Championship Bikeset (W.I.P.)
Post by: r1rossi on August 03, 2014, 09:56:25 PM
thank you hornet.
Title: Re: Endurance World Championship Bikeset (W.I.P.)
Post by: HornetMaX on August 03, 2014, 10:03:35 PM
Authors have said (a few times) that as soon as the mod is ready, they will let everybody know. It's not ready yet. Hence no news.

We're all interested in this bikeset.

MaX.
Title: Re: Endurance World Championship Bikeset (W.I.P.)
Post by: BOBR6 84 on November 02, 2015, 01:59:08 AM
Do I dare ask?  ;D ;D

I take it this project was scrapped?
Title: Re: Endurance World Championship Bikeset (W.I.P.)
Post by: Tchoum22 on November 02, 2015, 07:43:37 PM
This project was not scrapped  ;)
Title: Re: Endurance World Championship Bikeset (W.I.P.)
Post by: Davide74 on November 02, 2015, 08:00:01 PM
Quote from: Tchoum22 on November 02, 2015, 07:43:37 PM
This project was not scrapped  ;)

good news  ;)