Yamaha R6, Kawasaki Zx6r, Triumph Daytona 675, Cbr 600rr and.... a special guest....
Coming Soon ;D
http://www.youtube.com/v/izhoifnRyHw
http://www.youtube.com/v/b4LkjVeJUjA
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STAY TUNED!
oooh this should be great..thx Italia :D
and the guest maybe a Suzuki GSX600r?
Quote from: PeterV on March 09, 2014, 12:44:32 PM
and the guest maybe a Suzuki GSX600r?
too obvious ;)
Perhaps the new Mv Augusta is the surprise.
Fantastic news
Quote from: Toomes1 on March 09, 2014, 01:12:51 PM
Perhaps the new Mv Augusta is the surprise.
we would like too much but MV unfortunately will not the surprise.....
i wrote SPECIAL GUEST.... so it's not in WSS champ of this year :P
I want so bad to test it aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa it look so awesome... :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
Finally a KAWA !!!!! :) :)
Great work guys!!
This is what i like to see! Looks amazing guys! 8)
Looking good :-)
Special guest....hmm.....Ducati 748RS ??
Do all bikes have different physics?
Quote from: C21 on March 09, 2014, 10:44:27 PM
Looking good :-)
Special guest....hmm.....Ducati 748RS ??
Do all bikes have different physics?
chassis is the same for all the bikes... but engine of 4 cylinders are not the same as 3 cylinders ;)
Great job
Are you ready to enjoy? Coming Soon 8)
I am as ready as I possibly could 8)
Would they be coming out before the 14th? If so I can add them to the bike MOD, if not I'll add them next month on the 1st. :)
Quote from: Klax75 on March 10, 2014, 02:51:51 AM
Would they be coming out before the 14th? If so I can add them to the bike MOD, if not I'll add them next month on the 1st. :)
I'm working to release in this week .. but i don't guarantee
Great work guys!! Looking forward to ride with those beauttys!!
Kinda strange, but you diserve it: :-*
;D
Quote from: _oDi_ on March 10, 2014, 03:25:14 AM
Quote from: Klax75 on March 10, 2014, 02:51:51 AM
Would they be coming out before the 14th? If so I can add them to the bike MOD, if not I'll add them next month on the 1st. :)
I'm working to release in this week .. but i don't guarantee
Take your time, no rush. :)
Quote from: Alone on March 10, 2014, 03:32:43 AM
Great work guys!! Looking forward to ride with those beauttys!!
Kinda strange, but you diserve it: :-*
;D
uahahahahah NO GAY KISSES PLEASE ahahahahah
That Kawasaki picture is just stunning!!!.....is it possible higher resolution ? ......like a wallpaper ? ;D
Quote from: Abigor on March 10, 2014, 04:30:02 AM
That Kawasaki picture is just stunning!!!.....is it possible higher resolution ? ......like a wallpaper ? ;D
https://www.flickr.com/photos/109203374@N05/13046789253/sizes/h/in/photostream/ ;)
Quote from: _oDi_ on March 10, 2014, 05:06:52 AM
Quote from: Abigor on March 10, 2014, 04:30:02 AM
That Kawasaki picture is just stunning!!!.....is it possible higher resolution ? ......like a wallpaper ? ;D
https://www.flickr.com/photos/109203374@N05/13046789253/sizes/h/in/photostream/ ;)
Thanks ...... my new desktop wallpaper 8)
Looks amazing, cant wait for a 600cc championship with these babies :D
it's so beautiful!!
Can't wait!! :D
great work guys !!!
Is that the same Daytona as before or is it all new??
Quote from: matty0l215 on March 10, 2014, 08:41:57 AM
Is that the same Daytona as before or is it all new??
i don't know what you mean, the model or physics: the physics is totally different, the model almost the same with some tuning
Quote from: Alby46 on March 10, 2014, 08:46:43 AM
Quote from: matty0l215 on March 10, 2014, 08:41:57 AM
Is that the same Daytona as before or is it all new??
i don't know what you mean, the model or physics: the physics is totally different, the model almost the same with some tuning
Sorry, i meant the mode & thanks for clarifying :D
Thanks guys for this amazing work, I hope it will be released soon...
Gooood Work :)
man all you guys do such good work with this stuff!!! GREAT JOB!!!!!!
i hope special guest is moto2
no, Moto2 isn't the special guest sorry...
Moto2 is just in our plain.... maybe after the WSS :D
Or maybe something else...xD
Quote from: Harrytmj66 on March 13, 2014, 01:43:58 PM
Quote from: Alby46 on March 13, 2014, 01:37:40 PM
Or maybe something else...xD
Bicycle? 8)
no, ale and the other members of gp bikes italia know what i'm talking about
i' m really exited about this mod, and i really would like to ride a moto2 in the future ;)
this beast will be the next bike for gpbikes 8) (http://www.gokartgalaxy.com/minibike%2017%5B1%5D.JPG)
;D
It must be very comfortable 8)
Is this "special guest" from Italy? :P
Quote from: ALEale on March 13, 2014, 04:45:58 PM
mmm are you sure? o.O
of course, i talk almost every evening 'bout that! xD
you know what is... :D
Today we will announce release date! Stay tuned :D
We can not wait :)
Quote from: ALEale on March 14, 2014, 10:36:53 AM
Today we will announce release date! Stay tuned :D
Well that would be next week(end) ofc, the start of the motogp 2014 season. ;D ;)
ANNOUNCEMENT: First Beta of WSS 600 Bikeset by GPBikes Italia will be released 18th March 2014 ;)
we are doing our best to give you a good mod ;) thanks
Quote from: ALEaleANNOUNCEMENT: First Beta of WSS 600 Bikeset by GPBikes Italia will be released 18th March 2014 ;)
Very good news.
Now I can only wait for the first ride with CBR600RR and ZX-6R. And maybe also WSS competition :D
we think to open a server in time to the release of the WSS so we can race with all together :D
Goooood
;D ;D
Amazing work! Looking forward to these little rippers ;D
Are you ready to enjoy? :P
I can't wait!! will it be released tonight at 00:00 ? or during the afternoon or something like that?
i want to play with u !! :D
I don't know now... We will decide tonight in the last test ;)
Really looking forward to this guys. We should definitely do a championship with this ;D
Quote from: Harrytmj66 on March 17, 2014, 04:30:47 PM
Really looking forward to this guys. We should definitely do a championship with this ;D
+1 ;D
Quote from: Harrytmj66 on March 17, 2014, 04:30:47 PM
Really looking forward to this guys. We should definitely do a championship with this ;D
Off course!!! ;)
mmmmmmmm
Honda CBR 600, Kawasaki ZX6R, Triumph Daytona 675, Yamaha R6, the special guest, and..... oDi decided to add another bike ;D
so.... in tomorrow release will be SIX bikes to have fun :D
thanks to all for the support ;D
can't wait for tonight to see what's the sixth bike... :-X
Quote from: Alby46 on March 17, 2014, 06:12:25 PM
can't wait for tonight to see what's the sixth bike... :-X
Yamaha R6, Kawasaki Zx6r, Triumph Daytona 675, Cbr 600rr and.... a special guest ......thats 5 bikes or im wrong ?
Quote from: Abigor on March 17, 2014, 06:24:37 PM
Quote from: Alby46 on March 17, 2014, 06:12:25 PM
can't wait for tonight to see what's the sixth bike... :-X
Yamaha R6, Kawasaki Zx6r, Triumph Daytona 675, Cbr 600rr and.... a special guest ......thats 5 bikes or im wrong ?
thats 5, but there will be 1 more Abigor.
Quote from: ALEale on March 17, 2014, 06:10:04 PM
mmmmmmmm
Honda CBR 600, Kawasaki ZX6R, Triumph Daytona 675, Yamaha R6, the special guest, and..... oDi decided to add another bike ;D
so.... in tomorrow release will be SIX bikes to have fun :D
thanks to all for the support ;D
Ooo.....ok....i didn't read all post...... that's really fantastic news......can't wait :D
Quote from: Abigor on March 17, 2014, 06:24:37 PM
Yamaha R6, Kawasaki Zx6r, Triumph Daytona 675, Cbr 600rr and.... a special guest ......thats 5 bikes or im wrong ?
no he decided to add another bike, and i will know this evening what bike is ::)
Ti amo italiani, ottimo lavoro! 8)
Gay.
i knew it...
LOL
Be cool to see the new Mv as the sixth bike.
Quote from: Toomes1 on March 17, 2014, 09:02:49 PM
Be cool to see the new Mv as the sixth bike.
It would be Amazing!
Quote from: Alexbolo88 on March 17, 2014, 09:17:15 PM
Quote from: Toomes1 on March 17, 2014, 09:02:49 PM
Be cool to see the new Mv as the sixth bike.
It would be Amazing!
I would rather have a GSX-R ..... but hey we can always dreams :)
Quote from: Abigor on March 17, 2014, 09:28:31 PM
Quote from: Alexbolo88 on March 17, 2014, 09:17:15 PM
Quote from: Toomes1 on March 17, 2014, 09:02:49 PM
Be cool to see the new Mv as the sixth bike.
It would be Amazing!
I would rather have a GSX-R ..... but hey we can always dreams :)
CBR600RR, ZX-6R, R6 e Daytona 675.
The GSX-R 600 is the fifth bike. The sixth is still unknown... Hope for MV!
Quote from: Alexbolo88 on March 17, 2014, 09:32:39 PM
Quote from: Abigor on March 17, 2014, 09:28:31 PM
Quote from: Alexbolo88 on March 17, 2014, 09:17:15 PM
Quote from: Toomes1 on March 17, 2014, 09:02:49 PM
Be cool to see the new Mv as the sixth bike.
It would be Amazing!
I would rather have a GSX-R ..... but hey we can always dreams :)
CBR600RR, ZX-6R, R6 e Daytona 675.
The GSX-R 600 is the fifth bike. The sixth is still unknown... Hope for MV!
? ? ? are you sure about this ? ? ?
No MV ...
i want to test this mod aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
can't wait too, congrats to the whole team for this gift ;)
It`s time...
Something I'm not very good at (waiting) I hate it.
waiting...
yup
3 hours for the upload
the file too big :D
Damn you ! :P
uploading just started ? 3hours left ? :o
Quote from: JamoZ on March 18, 2014, 05:49:07 PM
Damn you ! :P
i miss playing with you and beuker naab
ohhh when you'll find out what the special guest is... ::)
CB500 ? :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
i just find a problem with the template of one of them >:( .. but, ok,, in the next release will solve ... now I'm already loading :)
:-* :-* :-* :-* :-* who will host a server when the mod release? jamoz ? damn on barcelona it's gonna be epic
Yeah the smoothed barcelona is quite good. Did some laps on it yesterday and it`s very ridable...
We will open a server with Misano 02 tonight :)
yea it is, even if the kerb are still grass under, so don't put your wheel on it.
I am also very curious to test le mans and jerez when it will release.
Ready!
http://gp-bikes-italia.forumfree.it/?t=68395553
have fun! 8)
Downloading now :D
nice
dloing!!
Thank you very much!
749!!!!!!!
Amazing job guys. 8)
outstanding work
Paints are exchangable ;) So it`s a wise idea to put the other R6 & Daytona paints into the new folders...
This account's public links are generating too much traffic and have been temporarily disabled! :'(
dropbox docet... we'll upload to another host ;)
thanks guys !! great work
but i when i connect to the misano server i get data mismatch !? : (
I like to engine braking, It is more difficult to stop the bike.
Models are beautiful, great work. ;)
They will release templates?
Awesome job, great bikes.
I love the Ninja sound, it's like there is a turbo suddenly kicking in :D
Quote from: Davide74 on March 18, 2014, 10:10:36 PM
They will release templates?
Yes... i think tomorrow :)
Lovely bike set, marks out of 10? =20 , the handling from the bike is equal to that of a real 600.
Amazing job and congrats to the Italian crew for all hard work on project..... 8) 8)
Keep feeding us guys.......keep feeding us.
Hello,
In first, thank you guys.
In second, the feeling:
I take the feeling of each players who were with me at suzuka after about 5 laps, they all rided 600, not ducati.
Beautifull 3d but bikes needs more occlusion/shadow
The interior of the bike is not so good as the exterior.
motor break to much hard
to much slow to go to the max rpm
loosing the front to much easy
the bike doesn't grip good the road
Now my feeling:
I test in first the ducati,
The start is difficult to not do a backflip, but not really a problem.
The 3d is good but needs more shadow
Is it the sound of the 996?
the bike goes easy right and left, very good sensation, the curves are really good to take.
front break seems a bit strange as other bikes we already have but nice. It seems that the power really becomes at the end of the lever's course.
Rear break is no more usable for me. I use it often usually.
Downgrading is to much hard
How, HOW have you do for the strange thing we usually have with all bikes? By this i mean the front wheel goes nuts right and left and makes us falling st low speed in hard curves. HOW?:):):)
After that i test the gex at dijon,
No problem at start in first gear
I like the rpm comming and BOUMM
the rideability is as good as the ducati
the sound is good but at full throttle on a straight i hear a repetition, but i know the difficulty of making sound.
i don't loose the front wheel, only when i brake to much or if i don't think about the elevation.
3d good but same problem as ducati.
With that bike i can use rear break.
Dowgrading seems to me good.
It presume futur really good championships.
Thank you very much.
PS: it will need a new section in the stas page:)
Quote from: janaucarre on March 18, 2014, 11:32:10 PM
Hello,
In first, thank you guys.
In second, the feeling:
I take the feeling of each players who were with me at suzuka after about 5 laps, they all rided 600, not ducati.
Beautifull 3d but bikes needs more occlusion/shadow
The interior of the bike is not so good as the exterior.
motor break to much hard
to much slow to go to the max rpm
loosing the front to much easy
the bike doesn't grip good the road
Now my feeling:
I test in first the ducati,
The start is difficult to not do a backflip, but not really a problem.
The 3d is good but needs more shadow
Is it the sound of the 996?
the bike goes easy right and left, very good sensation, the curves are really good to take.
front break seems a bit strange as other bikes we already have but nice. It seems that the power really becomes at the end of the lever's course.
Rear break is no more usable for me. I use it often usually.
Downgrading is to much hard
How, HOW have you do for the strange thing we usually have with all bikes? By this i mean the front wheel goes nuts right and left and makes us falling st low speed in hard curves. HOW?:):):)
After that i test the gex at dijon,
No problem at start in first gear
I like the rpm comming and BOUMM
the rideability is as good as the ducati
the sound is good but at full throttle on a straight i hear a repetition, but i know the difficulty of making sound.
i don't loose the front wheel, only when i brake to much or if i don't think about the elevation.
3d good but same problem as ducati.
With that bike i can use rear break.
Dowgrading seems to me good.
It presume futur really good championships.
Thank you very much.
PS: it will need a new section in the stas page:)
Occlusion is the same of mileston model. The engine brake is like real bike, you can't downshift on the track with real bike without locking the rear wheel. (ask to real drivers like Desteban). Front weel Loose? no one has had this problem. Maybe you do not have to do too many laps with Soft tyre...Soft tyres= Qual tyres. Maybe you should take a little more 'time before speak.
We were on soft tyres.
Note that only the first section is not my feeling.
I precised that was a fresh feeling after 5 laps.
For me all is good but the little problem(for me) of dowgrading on the ducati. Perhaps its only a sensation due to the sounds! like i dont ride the gp8 as the murasama, and only the sound changes.
Thank you.
maybe its only me !! but i think the handlebar on the gsxr is to wide !?
and another thing on the gsxr : in first person , i noticed a grey area at the fork (i cant watch through the bike)
otherwise , pretty damn nice :D
ok, for that I felt it was a hasty judgment. Sorry but you can make only 1-2 laps with soft tyres... and of course you lose the front !
The equivalent of the "soft" tyres is medium for WSS bike ;)
Careful as the soft tires wear very quickly (2-3 laps max, depending on the track): once they are worn, you'll lose the front easily.The engine brake has been discussed a lot:
- On these bikes, you NEVER use 1st gear on a track (except for starting). If you really want to use it you have to be extra careful at the RPMs and eventually keep the throttle a bit open when downshifting.
- Even if these bikes do have a slipper clutch, the engine brake is strong and there's no possible "engine brake" setting (like on a MotoGP) to tame down the engine brake.
I can confirm we cross-checked the behavior with real rider experience: these bike can lock the rear even downshifting 3->2, with or without a slipper clutch.
It takes a bit of time to get accustomed to, but it's as it should be ;)
MaX.
Thank you guys for the highly expected mod!!
I did not check the models and physics right now but regarding to the engine braking:
All models should have the slipper clutch installed and a locking rear should not be a case on each bike.
The 749r has techincally (based on the 2 cylinder and bigger bore) a bigger braking torque then the 600supersport bikes but also uses a slipper clutch.....to prevent a locking rear.
in real life:
If a slipper clutch is correctly adjusted you can shift down hard from 6th to 3rd without locking the rear! (No theoretical blabla....tested it in real life and on the track)
downshift 2nd to 1st will result mostly always in a partly locking rear if you downshift from high rpm.
I´m downloading the mod right now and have a big interest in the physics data.....will have a close look to it ;-)
P.S.
Due to my high workload i was not working much on my next mod:
To be honest I was developing a 749RS but now i can skip that..... :-\
The MOD is awesome. And the Engine Braking is exactly as it should be! people above does not know what he's talking! despite the slipper clutch ALL SUPERSPORT MOTORCYCLE have a minimum rear wheel locking! I drove for years r6 in track (seriously), And.. honestly .. in this mod is not so strong this feature, ok with 749 but might also be more engine brake with jap ;)
no "bla bla"
Quote from: C21 on March 19, 2014, 07:55:30 AM
To be honest I was developing a 749RS but now i can skip that..... :-\
thank god ...
Best Mod ever!!! Great work Italia!! :D
Thank you Italia amazing work, well done. Very fun to ride these bikes and handling is very good, even finally broke 1m33s on Phillip island and passed my GSVR lap time I haven't been able to beat in 2 weeks!
@Samuel desmo
Quote
To be honest I was developing a 749RS but now i can skip that..... :-\
thank god ...
I know your new on this forum so i don´t blame you for this statement.
But maybe it is better to think before posting? ;)
I expected to see different engines on the 600cc but they are all the same.
The gears and primary ratios on the 600cc are also the same....
Is there a reason why?
Daytona and 749R have their own gearsets, primary ratios and engines, so i don´t see a reason why the 600cc should not have their own ones too.....it would make it more realistic...
Did not yet have the time to ride the bikes...only looked at the data right now...
I think that everyone has different opinions what to expect from that mod and the prospect will be different.....so i only ask questions that are going to my mind....
There is a very simple reason, the differences between the 4cil are so small that they are not justified. In addition, one of the 4 certainly would be the fastest, with the result that everyone would use that bike between 4cilinders ... instead we want all the bikes are used, and the drivers make the difference. Of course, this argument can not be applied to the 3 or 2 cilinders. :)
I note one thing this night:
We can't change gear ratio for each gear, only final ratio.
You talked about the fact that the 600 never been in first gear, im ok with that, but of course if we don't want to be in first gear in very slow corner we must to put a very short ratio, so in the straight we will be at full speed in the first 1/3.
I say that because after 20 or 30 laps at navarra it was ever impossible to not pass the first gear in almost every corner, and the straight is very long.
600 WSS have fixed gear ( by official Regulation), You can only change front e real sprocket.
Quote from: janaucarre on March 19, 2014, 12:22:05 PM
I note one thing this night:
We can't change gear ratio for each gear, only final ratio.
As per WSS rules, gear ratios are fixed (selected at beginning of season and then never changed). Only final ratio can be changed.
1st gear is short because these bikes have little torque in low revs, so you need a short 1st to start from the grid. After, you forget about 1st (or you use it very very carefully).
MaX.
I really like the bikes, they are awesome! Engine break it not too much to be unridable but still noticeable and very well done!
I could use the first gear in Misano and Victoria without any issues! Don't know Navarra but shifting late is the key to use the first. Of course if you can use the second preferably take that one!
Quote from: Desteban on March 19, 2014, 12:38:25 PM
I really like the bikes, they are awesome! Engine break it not too much to be unridable but still noticeable and very well done!
I could use the first gear in Misano and Victoria without any issues! Don't know Navarra but shifting late is the key to use the first. Of course if you can use the second preferably take that one!
That's right.
Quote from: Desteban on March 19, 2014, 12:38:25 PM
I really like the bikes, they are awesome! Engine break it not too much to be unridable but still noticeable and very well done!
I could use the first gear in Misano and Victoria without any issues! Don't know Navarra but shifting late is the key to use the first. Of course if you can use the second preferably take that one!
Agree
QuoteThere is a very simple reason, the differences between the 4cil are so small that they are not justified. In addition, one of the 4 certainly would be the fastest, with the result that everyone would use that bike between 4cilinders ... instead we want all the bikes are used, and the drivers make the difference. Of course, this argument can not be applied to the 3 or 2 cilinders.
Thank you for the explanation.
I can understand your reason...but was expecting the different ;-)
(in my opinon: even if the differences between the 600cc are close they should be taken into the game....but anyway....it is how it is...)
The differences are really minimal, as it should be, and how we plan to ensure that all the drivers were running with a motorcycle!
the big difference is of course with Ducati and Triumph, to which we have dedicated a specific physical naturally very close to reality, in terms of speed and weight, and overall performance
Quote from: skerp on March 19, 2014, 02:45:22 PM
The differences are really minimal, as it should be, and how we plan to ensure that all the drivers were running with a motorcycle!
the big difference is of course with Ducati and Triumph, to which we have dedicated a specific physical naturally very close to reality, in terms of speed and weight, and overall performance
+1
minchia come sei internazionale... hai finito il Cepu? ahahahahahah
Quote from: C21 on March 19, 2014, 02:33:54 PM
QuoteThere is a very simple reason, the differences between the 4cil are so small that they are not justified. In addition, one of the 4 certainly would be the fastest, with the result that everyone would use that bike between 4cilinders ... instead we want all the bikes are used, and the drivers make the difference. Of course, this argument can not be applied to the 3 or 2 cilinders.
Thank you for the explanation.
I can understand your reason...but was expecting the different ;-)
(in my opinon: even if the differences between the 600cc are close they should be taken into the game....but anyway....it is how it is...)
yes...at first I thought of making a different physics, then by consulting with all the other guys we decided to make unique physic for japan bikes .. now let's see how it goes with this solution and then maybe in the future i will make different physics (or not)
Quote from: ALEale on March 19, 2014, 03:05:23 PM
Quote from: skerp on March 19, 2014, 02:45:22 PM
The differences are really minimal, as it should be, and how we plan to ensure that all the drivers were running with a motorcycle!
the big difference is of course with Ducati and Triumph, to which we have dedicated a specific physical naturally very close to reality, in terms of speed and weight, and overall performance
+1
minchia come sei internazionale... hai finito il Cepu? ahahahahahah
sarai un B....O!! ahahah ;)
Nice picture skerp, i see you`ve been working out?
I really like this mod. The physics is very good " tricky braking " ;) ......sound is fantastic ....i love how Suzuki and Kawasaki screaming ....but on Daytona Sound is not good. Ducati is hard but very enjoyable to ride.....fantastic work from team Italia !!
Quote from: JamoZ on March 19, 2014, 03:29:14 PM
Nice picture skerp, i see you`ve been working out?
;D ;D ;D ;)
Quote from: JamoZ on March 19, 2014, 03:29:14 PM
Nice picture skerp, i see you`ve been working out?
He's at 325Kmh in that picture ... ;D
MaX.
Quote from: HornetMaX on March 19, 2014, 04:24:52 PM
Quote from: JamoZ on March 19, 2014, 03:29:14 PM
Nice picture skerp, i see you`ve been working out?
He's at 325Kmh in that picture ... ;D
MaX.
The athletic body allows me! hahaha ;D
thx guys for your work !!!
;)
Short statement:
Really good work...makes fun to ride.
I only tested the 749R for about 41 laps at Monza and yes it really makes a big smile in my face.
It is not an easy ride on that Duc....you really have to work on it and i personally think that the 600cc are a lot easier to ride but the bikes get me the feeling that it handles similar to a real 749r (not in call cases but in most of it). You really have to change your driving style to get used to the bike...
Brilliant job guys.
Some cons on the 749R: ( i like it hardcore :) )
- the engine did not rev like a 749r WSS engine (power output is good but the real WSS revs 1000rpm higher and did not loose power above 11000rpm in 5th and 6th gear ;-) )
- too much front brake power (i use 20mm and still can flip the bike easily over), i would decrease the PtT to 0,43.
- a bit too much engine braking (the rear locks easy down from 4th to 3rd or 3rd to 2nd when shifting fast).
- it´s hard to hit the rev limiter in 4th,5th and 6th gear....the engine revs slowly up to 11500 but the limiter sound is not present. The 749R has a real hard hitting limiter in real life. It´s a bit strange: In 1st, 2nd and 3rd gear you can hear the limiter and hit it hard...maybe it´s caused by the engine power curve...the curve drastically dropped down after 11000rpm. It look´s like you´ve build a slightly higher revving 996SPS engine into a 749WSS (max power is about 141bhp@10762rpm looking into cfg)....but the 749WSS has not that big torque down below the rev line....it drives more like an big bore 2 stroke....with massive power between 8500-12500rpm.
- the rear sprocket turns not round , you can see it if the bike lays on the right side and the rear wheel spins (after a crash). The rear brake disc and rear rim are spinning round it´s only the rear sprocket which turns unround. It´s out of center.
- it looks like the rear fender is a bit off center also, slightly looking from above onto the rear suspension.
- not really necessary but you did not updated the automatic transmission ;-) Shift point is @14000rpm but the limiter comes in @11500.....
- why did you use 12/60-17 front tyre? Pirelli provides 120/70 front tyre and 180/55 and 180/60 rear tyre for the WSS 2014. ( I know you´re using 180/55 rear in cfg.... ;) ) Maybe it was only a mistype? Instead of 0,299 you type 0,289?? (0,299 -> 120/17-17 , 0,289 -> 12/60-17)
I riden all these bikes except the tumpet, not bad at all apart from the first gear never right and sound
ok thanks for the constructive criticism C21 :) I really appreciate. I'll try to fix these things in the next beta ... but, obviously, will remain a hardcore bike :D (my favorite.. jap is too easy :P)
I love the new bikes great job guys!! I have two questions. Can I include them in the next release of the Bike MOD which is going to be April 1st.
Second Question, will in the future you make the Rev lights on the dash board work? All the bikes have them but they don't function.
Again great work!
mmmm 1st April? sure! If the new update will not be ready, you can put this version ... ;)
for cockpit question: unfortunately in my team i'm the only one that works with 3d ... and if i must complete every single cockpit, it would take months ...
Quote from: _oDi_ on March 19, 2014, 08:34:11 PM
mmmm 1st April? sure! If the new update will not be ready, you can put this version ... ;)
for cockpit question: unfortunately in my team i'm the only one that works with 3d ... and if i must complete every single cockpit, it would take months ...
Thanks, the next full MOD Bike release will be on the 1st. Like you said if the newer version isn't out I'll use this version. :) Thanks again.
Updated #142
some more things i´ve noticed yesterday.
I will update #142 throughout the day....
Quote from: C21 on March 20, 2014, 07:37:38 AM
Updated #142
some more things i´ve noticed yesterday.
Thanks ;)
One graphical, on a few of the bikes. Could you add a extra polygon, when in helmet view, I can see straight to the ground which isn't so bad, but I can see I have no front tire at all. Especially when I'm in a turn looks a little weird seeing so much ground and the front of the bike is "hovering" with out a tire. lol. ;) Maybe a polygon just to block it off so you can't see straight to the ground.
@c21
The Brake power is ok for me and for all other guys, so I will not decrease, I have a 749R and I know what I say.
The power torque is pretty good now, I have a graph of torque of real 749 with tuned engine, I just have to improve flow around 11000 rpm, the rest is ok.
For the front wheel i choose 120/60 after millions of miles of testing with all the tester (very fast people), and simply we prefer them. However these tires are on the market ;)
engine braking is necessary to reduce it but not so much, yesterday I have done crazy fast laps with Davide74 on vallelunga and we did not have any problems with engine braking. :)
QuoteI have a 749R and I know what I say.
You´re a lucky one ;)
QuoteThe Brake power is ok for me and for all other guys, so I will not decrease
Ok, i will have to adapt my braking style...
Quoteengine braking is necessary to reduce it but not so much
Yes, it is not much decrease necessary on the engine braking but a tiny bit....
I´ve done several laps with Alibaskins yesterday on Monza and i found myself really struggeling to keep his pace. Ali was riding a GSXR600. Several times i crashed with a locking rear downshifting 4->3 or 3->2 on some corners. He outbrakes me several times because i was very careful at the downshifts to prevent a locking rear.
QuoteFor the front wheel i choose 120/60 after millions of miles of testing with all the tester (very fast people), and simply we prefer them
Seems reasonable. I don´t have any issue with the front end...was only wondering looking at the data ;)
Just have to say: You have done a real good job with this MOD!
Well ..Alibaskins is hard to follow even on a Vespa ;D
Thank you for your words ;) I really appreciate. I will try to improve it.
there is a bug on the 749r rear wheel
http://imageshack.com/a/img855/9337/vx4h.jpg (http://imageshack.com/a/img855/9337/vx4h.jpg)
Quote from: _oDi_ on March 20, 2014, 10:30:47 AM
Well ..Alibaskins is hard to follow even on a Vespa ;D
Hahahahah , true ! ;D
Quote from: speciallistcs87 on March 20, 2014, 02:11:14 PM
there is a bug on the 749r rear wheel
http://imageshack.com/a/img855/9337/vx4h.jpg (http://imageshack.com/a/img855/9337/vx4h.jpg)
Weird, I don't see it. I see the chain in the (almost) correct position.
MaX.
Quote from: speciallistcs87 on March 20, 2014, 02:11:14 PM
there is a bug on the 749r rear wheel
http://imageshack.com/a/img855/9337/vx4h.jpg (http://imageshack.com/a/img855/9337/vx4h.jpg)
i don't have this problem. Your .geom file is probably corrupted. Re-install ;)
hello Odi, thanks for the integration of the gsxr, she is beautiful, moreover, you didn't have a lot of time to make it, so congrats :)
little bugs I noticed :
The suzuki in white must be reversed and the rear wheel has a hole in it
(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/203/de0d.jpg) (https://imageshack.com/i/5nde0dj)
(http://www.motomag.com/IMG/jpg/1-fond-4-3.jpg)
Ok, seriously guys! It's ment to be riden not (so much) looked at. Who cares if theres a hole in the rear wheel or the chain fell off?! ::)
juju can see the details:)
Quote from: janaucarre on March 20, 2014, 05:46:17 PM
juju can see the details:)
not always, as anyone
Quote from: BozoCRO on March 20, 2014, 05:06:27 PM
Ok, seriously guys! It's ment to be riden not (so much) looked at. Who cares if theres a hole in the rear wheel or the chain fell off?! ::)
+ 1
yes... really annoying attitude.
QuoteOk, seriously guys! It's ment to be riden not (so much) looked at. Who cares if theres a hole in the rear wheel or the chain fell off?!
Me :P ;D
Quote from: _oDi_ on March 20, 2014, 06:06:55 PM
Quote from: janaucarre on March 20, 2014, 05:46:17 PM
juju can see the details:)
not always, as anyone
Quote from: BozoCRO on March 20, 2014, 05:06:27 PM
Ok, seriously guys! It's ment to be riden not (so much) looked at. Who cares if theres a hole in the rear wheel or the chain fell off?! ::)
+ 1
yes... really annoying attitude.
This is ridiculous........ Don't let those negative things get you down oDi.......remember you have a lot of fans that really like what you doing.
Quote from: rollingtheboy on March 20, 2014, 03:31:10 PM
The suzuki in white must be reversed and the rear wheel has a hole in it
known problem
Quote from: Abigor on March 20, 2014, 07:14:34 PM
Quote from: _oDi_ on March 20, 2014, 06:06:55 PM
Quote from: janaucarre on March 20, 2014, 05:46:17 PM
juju can see the details:)
not always, as anyone
Quote from: BozoCRO on March 20, 2014, 05:06:27 PM
Ok, seriously guys! It's ment to be riden not (so much) looked at. Who cares if theres a hole in the rear wheel or the chain fell off?! ::)
+ 1
yes... really annoying attitude.
This is ridiculous........ Don't let those negative things get you down oDi.......remember you have a lot of fans that really like what you doing.
Thx mate... it's just that I have received many many many private messages with stupid complaints (not all) , I did not expect, and this is little 'annoying .. but I have also received many compliments and constructive criticism (like C21 post), so.. the show must go on :)
I'm very sad, oDI and all the guys in Italy Gpbikes have worked really hard, all night sometimes, and I'm really sorry to read critical silly, without any knowledge of the facts. respect the criticism of course, serve to improve the next project, but when I'm silly makes me very angry, because oDi has put love, passion and talent in this huge project, that includes 6 motorcycles, taking care of all the details maniacally.
anyway guys .. sometimes it's hard to be polite and respectful, but maybe I realized something ...... The talent has always created jealousy in the minds without love, and passion.
QuoteWeird, I don't see it. I see the chain in the (almost) correct position.
MaX
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Battuta Tristissima!!
(sad joke) :'(
i think these 600`s are more fun then any bike so far. The 1000cc feels kind of boring now as you need to put some more skill into the 600 to keep it going. Very good job on the physics & engine guys. It really feels like a 600 :)
Quote from: skerp on March 21, 2014, 12:46:36 AM
QuoteWeird, I don't see it. I see the chain in the (almost) correct position.
MaX
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Battuta Tristissima!!
(sad joke) :'(
Which sad joke ? I was just saying I don't have the problem the other guy is reporting :o
I guess you've misunderstood what I've written, Skerp.
In any case, there's no need to go ballistic on this whole subject: oDi and others have put a lot of effort and the result is very good. Most if not all the comments are very positive.
People are reporting minor bugs here and there, things potentially to improve: well that's normal whenever a "product" is sent out to the public.
OK some comments may be not really smart, but that's bound to happen: up to oDi & co to filter what's relevant from what's not.
MaX.
Quote from: _oDi_ on March 20, 2014, 06:06:55 PM
Quote from: janaucarre on March 20, 2014, 05:46:17 PM
juju can see the details:)
not always, as anyone
Yes, I see everything !!! ;)
By the way, very good job guys, congrats all of you ! 8)
These kind of reports is what is called feedback, its normal to have minor bugs in such a big project, 6 bikes are a lot.
Sure people many times aren't so kind reporting them (ask Piboso :P), but you know.....people....
The mod is really good and promises good racing events, good fun, thank you.
QuoteThe mod is really good and promises good racing events,
+1
QuoteThese kind of reports is what is called feedback, its normal to have minor bugs in such a big project, 6 bikes are a lot.
in my opinion the minor bugs should be reported by users of the mod to improve the next version ;)
I don´t see it as a criticism on the mod itself.
It only helps the modders to improve their fabulous mod.
You can have tested the mod to the bone but most bugs are revealed after release of the mod and found by users.
Feedback could be positive or negative.
If you get negative feedback it should be bulletproof and with a understandable explanation what´s wrong.....if someone only talking shxx or did not have a well grounded explanation i would not take care of this feedback.
If someone is of the opinion he can do this mod better please try.....personally i don´t think the result will be huge better then now.
This mod was highly anticipated by most of the users and in my opinion it fully achieved the expectations!
There are still some minor things to improve....but it does not matter if they will not....
I´m a big Superbike and Supersport Fan. I had really huge expectations of this mod and it is not easy to satisfy me....but this mod gets me a big smile....and that´s hard to achieve ;)
BTT
One question at all the GP Italia Testers: Are you able to drive the same laptimes with the 749 as with the other 600cc?
I agree with all of you guys! :)
I have nothing against the feedback as I have explained, my "problem" was only with people who speak almost with anger when they report a bug, or with stupid/superficial ways, and to who is sending me idiots messages. They should understand that it's a beta (will be in development for indefinite time), ... and unfortunately the bugs are 'natural'. Then.. that is not our job, is a passion and we only want to share with you. Ok ... I hope everything is clear ;)
Quoteauthor=C21 link=topic=821.msg9241#msg9241 date=1395385736]
BTT
One question at all the GP Italia Testers: Are you able to drive the same laptimes with the 749 as with the other 600cc?
Absolutely not! as in reality the twin is best expressed in the circuits where you do not need a lot of top speed, where instead of the four-cylinder give the best, the very DUCATI suffer the powers of the four-cylinder Japan, but despite this I think we are on the order of one second lap, in high speed circuits, the circuits instead of medium fast defends very well, thanks to the power in the low revs, and the wonderful cycling. in conclusion, I think that those who will use Ducati will have to suffer, because it is difficult, cantankerous, but darn generous and beautiful, and a good driver can get out of the satisfactions and be competitive against even the four-cylinder Japanese.
This mod is absolutely the best so far we had, i had a really fun night yesterday with Stout,Warlock,Jamoz and Beuker on Valencia and Barcelona.. barcelona fits so well for this bike, it was really awesome to ride on it
here few screens from our night with my lova :-* :-* :-*
(http://puu.sh/7DFSN/2e1907ab95.jpg)
(http://puu.sh/7DFTw/91da3e91c1.jpg) beuker hard co. :-X hard braking
(http://puu.sh/7DFUp/fe6d03a248.jpg)
(http://puu.sh/7DFUV/544585692a.jpg)
Thanks Ludo! we are happy that you have fun!
Quote from: ludo05 on March 21, 2014, 10:17:04 AM
here few screens from our night with my lova :-* :-* :-*
You mean Jamoz ? ;D
MaX.
What goes on between me and Ludo stays between us :-X
Great MOD guys... gli italiani sono i migliori!!!
Are you thinking on MV Agusta F3 800?!?!?!
Please... for Italian people it is very important!!!
Awesome mod!!! I like the 600's alot!
Gpbikes italia thanks very much!! :)
The bikes handle sweet!!
Great job..
Yes there is a couple of bugs but nobody can really complain because its all free!
No problem for the bugs: report them, they will be fixed (if possible). The current release is only a beta.
MaX.
New Update:
http://gp-bikes-italia.forumfree.it/?t=68395553
New Daytona, and general improvements to other bikes.
thank you very much :D
downloading now
definatley my favourite set of bikes so far!.. loving the gsxr
also if u need somebody to fix the UV's of the gsxr feel free to send the files over should only take me 5 to fix it for you guys
Hey oDi, do you have a changelog of what actually changed? It`s hard to notice and give feedback without it ;)
only small changes:
Daytona Sound
Update Daytona Engine
Update 749 Engine
Update Jap Engine
Some graphic fix...
::)
Thank , for this great mod. Really cool :)
Quote from: _oDi_ on March 26, 2014, 11:09:22 PM
New Update:
http://gp-bikes-italia.forumfree.it/?t=68395553
New Daytona, and general improvements to other bikes.
I have download this update but now i have Data mismatch :-\
Maybe servers are not updated yet
Yes servers not up to date.
Had this yesterday..no connection possible with V092....switched back to v090 and could play.
Is it possible to add the mod version number to the GPB Italia WSS and Motoonline FR WSS servers??? Would be really helpfull!
Names updated as asked ;)
weird... our server is updated ... :o
thanks _oDi_
Thanks!
I was curious, about the Triumph, in the old version before WSS 600 was released the Triumph had a texture called "MechanicalDetails.tga" which had the frame, and assorted metal parts. When doing my teams paint for this bike, since the frame and swing arm are red. With the new triumph did this textures name change? Because putting the old file in to the paint it not longer shows up on the bike, when the other textures do.
Thanks. :)
uhm.. I don't remember if i renamed some texture, i think not... however, for the Daytona the name it should be "partimeccaniche.tga" ;)
Quote from: _oDi_ on April 22, 2014, 02:10:12 PM
uhm.. I don't remember if i renamed some texture, i think not... however, for the Daytona the name it should be "partimeccaniche.tga" ;)
LOL ! Italians do it better :)
MaX.
Quote from: _oDi_ on April 22, 2014, 02:10:12 PM
uhm.. I don't remember if i renamed some texture, i think not... however, for the Daytona the name it should be "partimeccaniche.tga" ;)
lol that was it. Thanks. :)
Update to V095
http://gp-bikes-italia.forumfree.it/?t=68395553
little general tuning for the physic and 3d
also solved the problem of the engines that break too easily
ODi thnx mate
Thanks _oDi_
Do i miss V093 and V094? ;D
Thank you ODI!
Remark:
The DL is very slow....(average 20kb/s). Took up to 4 hours.... >:(
Is it possible to use another filehoster?
Quote from: C21 on May 08, 2014, 06:42:51 AM
Do i miss V093 and V094? ;D
Thank you ODI!
Remark:
The DL is very slow....(average 20kb/s). Took up to 4 hours.... >:(
Is it possible to use another filehoster?
No i'm sorry C21... to upload it to another host it would take hours (4/5 on Dropbox)...
however maybe there is too traffic now (?)
Thanks guys!
The download link is ok for me, I downloaded it yesterday night and it only took 10 min
Thank´s Odi.
It seems there is way too much traffic but anymay.....i´m downloading @work until its finished ;D
I would prefer if only the updated files will be uploaded. This will take less time and the Download will be much smaller.
Quote from: C21 on May 08, 2014, 10:18:48 AM
Thank´s Odi.
It seems there is way too much traffic but anymay.....i´m downloading @work until its finished ;D
I would prefer if only the updated files will be uploaded. This will take less time and the Download will be much smaller.
GpBikes's files are crazy... to avoid datamismatches or other problems it's better to upload the entire bikeset ;)
downloading speed is fine for me ..only 3 min :P
Cool, thx raga!
thanks for the update ;)
Sorry guys, there was an error in the 'upload ... you need to replace this https://www.dropbox.com/s/qtt245zm4wxfl2h/ducati_749.rar .cfg file in the Ducati 749 folder. It's necessary for the guys who use Autoclutch.
I hope that all the servers will be upgraded. Klax75 can put it directly into the new pack for BikeMod.
sorry again but with so many bikes sometimes mistakes can happen :-X
Quote from: _oDi_ on May 08, 2014, 10:00:18 PM
I hope that all the servers will be upgraded. Klax75 can put it directly into the new pack for BikeMod.
sorry again but with so many bikes sometimes mistakes can happen :-X
No problem. _oDi_ :) The next MOD release will be next week.
havent been around in a while...decided to download the WSS pack last night. oh my goodness...so in love! so glad i have a Kawi to ride now! thanks for all the hard work! great job!
Quote from: soc_monki on May 11, 2014, 09:33:23 PM
havent been around in a while...decided to download the WSS pack last night. oh my goodness...so in love! so glad i have a Kawi to ride now! thanks for all the hard work! great job!
the kawa has a fantastic sound, when i heard it for the first time i fell in love
i love the idle sounds. when i first went into the game i just thought "it sounds like my bike!" and then proceeded to crash a bunch everywhere...being away so long i needed to brush up on playing. and calm down LOL! need to get some consistency back before i get back online. trying to learn more than just 2 or 3 tracks as well. much easier with the lower speed and easier control however. the 990 made learning tracks a nightmare because before you knew it you were at warp speed.
I still have a problem with Ducati 749 (autoclutch), even after update :/
Could you explain your "problem"? It´s hard to analyse just guessing....
Quote from: Gzehoo on May 17, 2014, 09:27:27 AM
I still have a problem with Ducati 749 (autoclutch), even after update :/
Are you sure that the server you were on hasn't been set to manual clutch only? Or were you testing offline with clutch set to auto?
I was online on a French server the other day and they had the server set to manual clutch only, and it is a weird reaction when changing gears. Lol
I use only manual clutch and i don't have any issue. ???
Gzeooh try to re-download.it from original link... https://www.mediafire.com/?xtql3jjrx9plyqx
great work！！！ :D :D but i hav a question，the sounds of the bikes are not the original factory? Like wsbk?
The new version on your forum isn't a public version ?
It will be cool if 600 are added on the bikemod for his next update (01 july) and easy to manage servers ^^
Quote from: Alibaskins on June 29, 2014, 10:12:29 AM
The new version on your forum isn't a public version ?
It will be cool if 600 are added on the bikemod for his next update (01 july) and easy to manage servers ^^
yes, is not definitive (I have yet to understand some things of the beta5), but it's public ;)
I'm very happy with the new wss bikeset. Thank you guys:)