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Title: An unsolved mystery...
Post by: August1 on March 22, 2014, 06:03:59 PM
Ok so the thread title is a bit over dramatic but I was wondering if anyone here knows anything about a PC motorcycle game that, if my memory serves me right, was featured as a demo on a 2002 issue of PC Zone (a defunct UK PC gaming mag)?

From memory, the game was based on MotoGP, was very unique as it had brutal and hilarious ragdoll riders when you crashed, featured a realistic physics engine and bike handling including convincing low-sides and high-sides.  I remember the demo featured the 125cc class only and one track. I also remember playing the demo for the first in the long-running MotoGP series of games a few months later and being thoroughly underwhelmed in comparison so I know that it wasn't one of the MotoGP games. It's also not Superbike 2001 because I have that game. I've been trying to find this game for ages without any luck.
Title: Re: An unsolved mystery...
Post by: Alby46 on March 23, 2014, 07:53:05 AM
From the description it looks very interesting
Title: Re: An unsolved mystery...
Post by: Arvoss on March 23, 2014, 08:22:31 AM
I found a couple of games that could be 'your' game :P

Ducati World Racing Challenge
AMA Superbike
Redline racer
Moto racer 3
Superbike 2000
Title: Re: An unsolved mystery...
Post by: August1 on March 23, 2014, 08:35:07 AM
Arvoss thanks for the list but I'm afraid it's not any of those games. It was a realistic Moto GP sim with licensed bikes if I remember correctly. There is the chance that it was never released because I can count the number of realistic bike sims over the years with one hand. All I know is that I definitely had the demo installed at one point and that it's the only motorcycle sim to date that I know of which featured ragdoll rider physics (no falling/tumbling animations).
Title: Re: An unsolved mystery...
Post by: Arvoss on March 23, 2014, 09:00:49 AM
Quote from: August1 on March 23, 2014, 08:35:07 AM
Arvoss thanks for the list but I'm afraid it's not any of those games. It was a realistic Moto GP sim with licensed bikes if I remember correctly. There is the chance that it was never released because I can count the number of realistic bike sims over the years with one hand. All I know is that I definitely had the demo installed at one point and that it's the only motorcycle sim to date that I know of which featured ragdoll rider physics (no falling/tumbling animations).

Send a message to PC Zone ;) they can help you and maybe even send the demo to you :P

Edit: Oh, defunct means no longer existing, didn't know :/ It will be difficult to find the name of a demo i think :/
Title: Re: An unsolved mystery...
Post by: Hawk on March 23, 2014, 09:27:09 AM
I've not a clue which game you have in mind, but if Piboso could implement Ragdoll Physics into GP BIkes for the rider when he crashes that would be BRILLIANT to see on the replays! Hehe. And for a sim it's as close to realistic a rider action when he falls as you will get on a PC; it would be SO much better to see than the current animation we have at this time. I hope Piboso takes note for a future update.

How's about it Piboso? ;) ;D
Title: Re: An unsolved mystery...
Post by: Ian on March 23, 2014, 12:04:44 PM
Quote from: August1 on March 22, 2014, 06:03:59 PM
Ok so the thread title is a bit over dramatic but I was wondering if anyone here knows anything about a PC motorcycle game that, if my memory serves me right, was featured as a demo on a 2002 issue of PC Zone (a defunct UK PC gaming mag)?


Great mag I used to subscribe to it and guess what I have all the disc somewhere in the loft  ;D
Title: Re: An unsolved mystery...
Post by: August1 on March 23, 2014, 12:18:24 PM
Now I'm not going to ask you to leaf through all those issues but I would like to let you know that there is probably a demo of a hidden gem of a motorcycle game in there somewhere  ;D
Title: Re: An unsolved mystery...
Post by: Ian on March 23, 2014, 12:47:32 PM
Quote from: August1 on March 23, 2014, 12:18:24 PM
Now I'm not going to ask you to leaf through all those issues but I would like to let you know that there is probably a demo of a hidden gem of a motorcycle game in there somewhere  ;D
I will have to search the disc don,t have the mags anymore,leave it with me for a day or 2 
Title: Re: An unsolved mystery...
Post by: August1 on March 23, 2014, 01:47:46 PM
Brilliant! I'm 99% sure the demo was featured between 2001-2003.
Title: Re: An unsolved mystery...
Post by: Ian on March 23, 2014, 03:27:00 PM
You moved the goal post slightly  ;D I will start with 2002
Title: Re: An unsolved mystery...
Post by: Ian on March 23, 2014, 03:54:38 PM
Just clicked PCZONE website link on a CD and it leads to here
http://www.computerandvideogames.com/reviews/?channel=pc
Title: Re: An unsolved mystery...
Post by: RBp on March 24, 2014, 06:19:07 PM
Netbike?
Title: Re: An unsolved mystery...
Post by: Ian on March 29, 2014, 08:39:17 PM
Your out of luck I have Disc form 1998 to 2006
I was missing April and September 2003 Disc so slim chance it was on there.
Title: Re: An unsolved mystery...
Post by: Arvoss on March 29, 2014, 08:42:46 PM
Quote from: Ian on March 29, 2014, 08:39:17 PM
Your out of luck I have Disc form 1998 to 2006
I was missing April and September 2003 Disc so slim chance it was on there.

lol. So you have +-100 discs and you're missing the 2 most important ones? :P Maybe you saw that moto game too in 2003 and played it so much that it is still in your old computer :P
Title: Re: An unsolved mystery...
Post by: BozoCRO on March 29, 2014, 11:13:04 PM
Quote from: RBp on March 24, 2014, 06:19:07 PM
Netbike?

Probably this
Title: Re: An unsolved mystery...
Post by: August1 on March 30, 2014, 06:54:20 AM
Ian thanks for the effort! It looks like this mystery will have to go unsolved for now. I'm also pretty certain it's not netbike as that was an unpublished mod and there are videos of it on Youtube.
Title: Re: An unsolved mystery...
Post by: iVolution on March 31, 2014, 09:34:35 PM
Although not from the same period and pretty well known, but worth a try..GP500? It had pretty good physics and has not been mentioned. TT superbikes is another contender as well but i think was only released on ps2 (in case your memory is playing tricks on you). I have been playing pretty much every motorracing game since 2000 and cant really come up with anything else.
Title: Re: An unsolved mystery...
Post by: ChrisK on April 28, 2014, 06:09:21 PM
was netbike from kunos? did he ever release it?
Title: Re: An unsolved mystery...
Post by: Alby46 on April 28, 2014, 06:25:18 PM
never released it, he did 2 betas and stop
Title: Re: An unsolved mystery...
Post by: ChrisK on April 28, 2014, 07:01:38 PM
because motorbike sims are the most difficult things to code because of physics :D :D

better to make asetto corsa then ;)

grats to piboso and jlv, kings of motorbike sims :D
Title: Re: An unsolved mystery...
Post by: Alby46 on May 04, 2014, 08:39:49 AM
Quote from: ChrisK on April 28, 2014, 07:01:38 PM
because motorbike sims are the most difficult things to code because of physics :D :D

better to make asetto corsa then ;)

grats to piboso and jlv, kings of motorbike sims :D
yeah i must really thank piboso, cause there are no moto sims except gp bikes... it's the only game i play now :3
Title: Re: An unsolved mystery...
Post by: HornetMaX on May 04, 2014, 05:00:38 PM
Quote from: Alby46 on May 04, 2014, 08:39:49 AM
yeah i must really thank piboso, cause there are no moto sims except gp bikes... it's the only game i play now :3
Same for me here, GPB mono-maniac here.
I'll only change that when MXB is out and become bi-polar (GPB - MXB).

MaX.