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Title: Rebound and Suspension setup 'tests'
Post by: Myst1cPrun3 on January 08, 2021, 07:42:55 AM
Expanding on previous post about SAG value position, it would be nice to have the option to setup rebound properly.

This means being in the garage and 'pushing' down on both the front and rear suspension to check it has only one stroke, and the bike is 'balanced'.

This again is a huge part of bike setup, and would help modders actually understand just how big their suspension values have to be.

This video, although brief, demonstrates the 'technique' I want to see usable in gpb


Now I am not sure if this is in GPB somewhere, but after realising 90% of the bikes available in GPB are unable to be setup correctly, (from my testing) I would guess it isn't.

It is a huge thing, and after I put 'correct' values in the entire riding experience in GPB changed, and the rebound actually began to make an extremely noticeable (and realistic) difference when changed
Title: Re: Rebound and Suspension setup 'tests'
Post by: Myst1cPrun3 on February 02, 2021, 12:12:55 PM
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Title: Re: Rebound and Suspension setup 'tests'
Post by: infected247 on February 02, 2021, 09:18:31 PM
+1
I kind of make up for this in MaxHUD, with the suspension widget, (mainly to keep an eye on how wobbly the rebound is and if it can take the acceleration/braking without topping/bottoming out) but having such a feature would be really cool.
Title: Re: Rebound and Suspension setup 'tests'
Post by: Myst1cPrun3 on February 03, 2021, 09:15:06 AM
Quote from: infected247 on February 02, 2021, 09:18:31 PM+1
I kind of make up for this in MaxHUD, with the suspension widget, (mainly to keep an eye on how wobbly the rebound is and if it can take the acceleration/braking without topping/bottoming out) but having such a feature would be really cool.

It's a small thing to put in, but would make a huge difference in finding the right setup, and actually finding the right suspension values for modders.

It's a bit long winded trying to rock the bike forward to check rebound and so on  ::)
Title: Re: Rebound and Suspension setup 'tests'
Post by: Vini on February 03, 2021, 09:27:05 AM
I still don't really understand how exactly this new feature would look and work.
Can you go into a bit more detail?
Title: Re: Rebound and Suspension setup 'tests'
Post by: Myst1cPrun3 on February 04, 2021, 10:23:45 PM
Quote from: Vini on February 03, 2021, 09:27:05 AMI still don't really understand how exactly this new feature would look and work.
Can you go into a bit more detail?

The ability that in the garage you push the suspension up and down while stationary.

Literally the ability to do this in the garage to front and rear

Title: Re: Rebound and Suspension setup 'tests'
Post by: Myst1cPrun3 on February 04, 2021, 10:24:10 PM
Title: Re: Rebound and Suspension setup 'tests'
Post by: Myst1cPrun3 on February 04, 2021, 10:25:14 PM
How this could be integrated into the gpb garage idk, maybe on the suspension screen have the ability to view the live suspension travel and press a button to push it down.

Can sort of simulate it with maxhud and riding slow to a stop but it's not 100%
Title: Re: Rebound and Suspension setup 'tests'
Post by: Vini on February 05, 2021, 01:26:12 AM
But to me this all seems very unspecific and more down to feel. In realiyt it might work great but how would this be impemented exactly in GPB from the physics side?
For example, what determines what forces is being applied to the suspension and what point (leverage) and for how long?
Title: Re: Rebound and Suspension setup 'tests'
Post by: Myst1cPrun3 on February 05, 2021, 08:18:56 AM
It's called a 'Push' test as that's the action you perform on the bike, but when you do it you're not testing how the forks go down, it's how the forks go up.

I've got close to what is deemed 'OK', by changing the brakes for the test, so I could consistently brake without pulling a stoppie.

Once I stopped I got the same data, but it isn't really accurate do there is still room for improvements.