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Off Topic / Re: MotoGP19
September 15, 2019, 09:59:55 pm
Plugins / Re: MaxHUD plugin
September 15, 2019, 02:13:41 pm
Quote from: HornetMaX on September 15, 2019, 12:52:40 pm
Quote from: Myst1cPrun3 on September 14, 2019, 05:08:11 pmMuch like the rest of Max Hud it seems to render in a fixed to the bikes when running In vr, it doesn't follow the headset.

Can see what I mean in this vid, the helmet overlay does a similar thing:
OK I see. Nothing I can do about that though: it would need PiBoSo to think about how plugin quads & strings renders in case of VR.

In any case, the helmet rotation is tied to the bike roll, so in case of VR I'm not sure it makes much sense.

No worries. I was just wondering what tid be like to run it.
Works well with trackIR tho
Media / Re: Gpbikes videos ;)
September 14, 2019, 08:36:57 pm
Vintage Norton @ Goodwood in Honor of this weeks Goodwood Revival Meeting

Plugins / Re: MaxHUD plugin
September 14, 2019, 05:09:57 pm
The actual leader-boards and stuff like that staying on the bike is actually how I'd like it, I run similarly in other sims, but its the helmet that is the issue when it behaves like that.
Plugins / Re: MaxHUD plugin
September 14, 2019, 05:08:11 pm
Much like the rest of Max Hud it seems to render in a fixed to the bikes when running In vr, it doesn't follow the headset.

Can see what I mean in this vid, the helmet overlay does a similar thing:

Media / Re: Gpbikes videos ;)
September 14, 2019, 02:00:14 pm
Plugins / Re: MaxHUD plugin
September 14, 2019, 01:14:58 pm
Cheers for the update.

Quick question, would it be possible to get the helmet overlay working in VR?

Used to run it on my TrackIR and it looked pretty good, but it just stays fixed in VR.

I'd love to at least try it in VR, although with the 'screen door effect' of the older oculus it's similar to wearing a helmet anyways

Quote from: Hawk on September 14, 2019, 10:24:41 am
Quote from: Myst1cPrun3 on July 11, 2019, 11:49:40 pm

I wish I was old enough to see this live not gonna lie, absolutely bonkers gazza was :o

NICE! ;D  ;D  8)

I beleave this was when riders(particularly Garry Mccoy) discovered what they could do with the new tyres that where introduced at that time.... Previously if riders had done that they would've shredded their rears. Lol!
But maybe now you realise why we oldies wish motoGP would go back to no electronics.... Not all riders have the throttle and weight shift skills to be able to control those kind of slides without electronics, and that's what made the difference between the top riders back in those days... Riders with real excellent rider skills and and those who where just normal good riders, unlike today where cause of the electronics most riders could be up with the front guys if they had the power to stay there; they might as well be on a scalextric track, hence we mostly see them bunched up together...
The differences in rider skills sets have been mostly leveled-out cause of the electronic aids they have these days.... No one particularly special, and if you think a guy like marquez is special then that might just make you realise how special people like Sheene, Roberts, Spencer, Lawson, Shwantz, Rainey, Gardner, ect, etc must have been back in the day when riders where real riders using their raw skills to control their bikes. :P 
Back in the old days it was just magical to see each individuals rider skills and riding styles on display... Today they all seem same, same..... Just a sign of the times and degeneration of the sport these days I guess - (sigh).  ;) :P ;D

Up the revolution.... Bring back the 2T GP500 Category!!  ;D  ;D  ;)

Reccomend you watch the GP Legends Races, or as you're UK Based if I'm not mistaken, the 'Classic Motorcycle Racing Club' have a classic 500gp class I believe. Granted I think its more Nortons than 2 Stokes but to me those are even better. 

On another note I believe the data that was gotten from Good ol Gazza helped tyre development go where it is today, and while I appreciate the talent to do this, as a spectator, its much better to watch a bunched up even race, as anyone could win.

As for no one special, I'd have have said there have been a few that do stand out, but today they have to have electronics knowledge as well as good racing talent.

Marquez, obviously, as he has huge talent, and seems to be able to get that bike to do what he wants, even more than any other honda,
Another one For me is, as wooden as his personality was, is Stoner. He was just something else, and I think we were Robbed not seeing him and Marquez go at it.
Quote from: Hawk on September 14, 2019, 10:55:21 am

Enjoy guys! ;D

Best bits about this:
1) Replicas are banned at goodwood, to the best of my knowledge so they are all real cars from their own period, and cost several thousands.
2) The motorbikes are awesome, a bunch of Norton 500s
3) Good Ol' Danny Pedrosa is Racing on a Paton
Quote from: Vini on September 14, 2019, 09:10:59 amI guess the leg dangle has to be dependent on the braking force. I don't see how you would do it otherwise if you don't want the leg to come out under the slightest braking which would look really strange.

The easier solution for now would be to give us the manual control option and then worry about perfecting the "dangle algorithm" later on.

The algorithm that drops the leg is fine, it comes down at all the right points, and the points at which it drops is 'believable' so to speak.

The main issue is the return. So for me, perhaps when the leg has dropped change the return algorithm to run off lean angle. So when you apply a certain amount of lean it returns to the peg then, rather than when you let off the brake.

Quote from: Hawk on September 14, 2019, 09:42:52 amLeg dangle looks very strange anyway..... Looks like they are panicking to slow down quick enough! Lol! ;D  ;D

That's pretty much what it is I should imagine, way back when to when you were 5 and messed up on your bicycle and went to put your foot down.
Other thing is that it would move the center of weight out, even only a little, but I personally don't think that's the reason why they do it.
I'd also like to see the leg dangle 'return to peg' parameters changed.

As the leg comes out and returns depending on the brake force, often I get what I call the 'double drop', where I get a little sideways on entry, and have to ease off the brake, and then reapply it. This results in the leg going back on the peg and dropping again, when in reality, the leg would be out all the time.

If the 'return to peg' goes off the throttle position or lean angle instead of brake position it would keep the leg out when the bike goes 'slideways' on the brakes, which would be much more realistic.

You can see the 'double drop' on this video here:

Beta 16b Testing with Demo 4 of Manus MotoGP Mod @ Montmelo classic

Suggestions and wishlist / Custom Rider Riding Styles
September 13, 2019, 09:28:20 am
I'd love to see a riding style editor like in ride 2, whether it's a standalone program like track Ed or something is not a big deal to me.

All the relevant animations are there so it'd be ideal to start putting this in now.

The ability to assign individual coordinates, (through a visual interface) to each body part at various parts of the riding animation, and having gp bikes fill in the gaps, would be ideal and awesome to see. Be able to use my own style
Suggestions and wishlist / Changeable leg dangle speed
September 13, 2019, 09:24:07 am
I'd like to see the speed of the leg dangle increased.

 At the minute, while looking very good, seems a bit leisurely and doesn't seem to be affected by any wind forces.

Speeding up the movement from the pegs to full extend, and returning back to the pegs would be a huge improvement to the look of it.

I'd also like to see it mappable to a button so we can choose when to dangle it.
There are a few great races, it it just seems hard to find them online, perhaps because there aren't as many, and perhaps because there wasn't a way of storing/sharing them back then.

I will say I do prefer the older tracks, and this version of Catalunya is possibly my fav