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General Discussion / Re: mx-bikes.com down?

Last post by PiBoSo - March 05, 2021, 11:00:03 AM

At the moment there seems to be a problem with the web host: https://status.servage.net/

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Off Topic / Re: The State of Modern MotoGP...

Last post by HornetMaX - March 05, 2021, 09:22:54 AM

Bad road conditions are exactly what ABS is designed for.

And it's exactly where it should shine.

And it's exactly where it shines.

However the systems that I have seen, (and the 2019 CBR650r system I tried) is currently not advanced enough for it to function, certainly at its full capabilities. It was juddery, rough, and provided 0 feel from the bike as to what the front end was doing.

When it kicks in, it's thinking you're about to lock the front: what the rider feels (or not) when it kicks in is essentially irrelevant because when you lose te front, most of the times you're going down. It just tries to prevent that.

Now, if riding the cbr the abs kicks in so often that it becomes annoying then there are 2 possibilities: either you're riding like a mad man on public roads / bad grip conditions or there's a problem on the bike (any decent dealer can check this).

But again, if it kicks in on very heavy breaking, it's just doing its job.
BTW, I think on the CBR650R the ABS has 2 settings (sport, circuit): did you play with that ? EDIT: nah, it's the CBR1000RR that has that, my bad.

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General Discussion / mx-bikes.com down?

Last post by davidboda46 - March 05, 2021, 06:46:24 AM

@Piboso
Hi.
I get "503 Service Unavailable" message when trying to access mx-bikes.com. I get "This site can't be reached" when trying to get directly to forum page. Is it down for maintenance or is their some other issue?

Cheers,

/David "Gonzo" Boda #46

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Off Topic / Re: The State of Modern MotoGP...

Last post by Myst1cPrun3 - March 05, 2021, 01:59:43 AM

Bad road conditions are exactly what ABS is designed for.

And it's exactly where it should shine.

However the systems that I have seen, (and the 2019 CBR650r system I tried) is currently not advanced enough for it to function, certainly at its full capabilities. It was juddery, rough, and provided 0 feel from the bike as to what the front end was doing.

Again other systems may vary in their capabilities, but it's not 'advanced' enough to be usable in a realistic situation.

When I say 'Designed for safety, but doesn't make bikes safer,' it's not supposed to be a contradiction, and it's not me saying it doesn't work as a safety feature, (it does on cars), that's my crappy typing, it's supposed to mean more the actual abs operation isn't optimised enough to actually be feasible. (ABS in general is a safety feature)
It upset the bike and the front end was vague in what it was doing. And in real riding that was not ideal, especially for new riders to be learning on.

If it can be implemented to it's 'full capabilities', like we see in cars where it's quite smooth and still keeps the feeling, (mostly) then I see it becoming more of an option.

As for my name, it's going to take years of therapy for me to recover... Don't know how I'll survive.

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Off Topic / Re: The State of Modern MotoGP...

Last post by HornetMaX - March 04, 2021, 09:55:40 PM

Designed for safety. Doesn't actually make the bikes safer.

I'm really unsure about what that means.

A new rider, (like me) would find this very 'unnerving' (I do) as the suspension on anything that's not a superbike  is not what you'd call good for providing feedback. Add that into bad road conditions like in the UK, and then add constantly releasing and reapplying the brakes into that.... It simply isn't safe.

It's funny really the only one that isn't developed for speed, but is developed for safety turns out to be the one that is perhaps the most unsafe   

What is funny is that bad road conditions (like in the UK) are exactly the situations in which ABS is needed more: uneven surface, wet, suddent change of grip (puddle, gravel, etc). Same for below-par suspensions, ABS will help even more.

I don't know which kind of ABS you base your judgment on, maybe you've tried something from 30 years ago and concluded there. There are very few situations in which not having ABS is better and they all involve some pretty unlikly combination of prefectly smooth surface and extremely skilled (and focused) rider.

If you think you're better off without ABS, it's OK, it's your opinion. Saying ABS as safety feature doesn't work is something else. And is wrong.

But as I feel that you think I'm some sort of an idiot (which again, you're obviuously free to do), then I'll point you to others that surely have more authority. Juyst a couple, but I'm sure you'll find more if you want:

https://www.motorcycle.com/features/why-you-need-abs-on-your-next-motorcycle.html

https://www.rideapart.com/features/361866/ask-rideapart-abs-worth-it/

Also, If you're going to make childish sarcastic replies, that's fine, you do you

Childish ?! Where ?!

Hawk said nobody argues with ABS being a safety feature, not even him. But you do (or at least it seems you do) and I pointed this out: where's the problem ?

but at least do yourself the favour of spelling a name right.

Especially as it's written both above and below the messages. Lol

Yeah, sorry for not spelling Myst1cPrun3 right. That was rude from me. Hope you'll recover.

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Bikes / Tyres limit compounds

Last post by VSMaster - March 04, 2021, 08:20:13 PM

is there a limit for tyre compounds in the model? I mean how many can I declare in the tyre/sidewall.txt?

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Off Topic / Re: The State of Modern MotoGP...

Last post by Myst1cPrun3 - March 04, 2021, 08:13:47 PM

ABS is a safety feature, no doubt about that, no one is arguing that is a fact

Well, no one except MysticPrune, apparently.

Designed for safety. Doesn't actually make the bikes safer. (At least from the manufacturer I rode, I imagine it varies) on each system.

(But from my, albeit, 'limited' experience of road bike ABS, and also In cars, it didn't help one bit and was a massive hinderence into the control I had over the motorcycle. I don't know if that was the setting it was on or what, but it wasn't good)


At the very least the ability to turn it off would be nice.

If you ask me I'd force people to learn with no aids whatsoever, and attend an 'advanced riding course' before they go past the 'CBT' level but different topic.

Also, If you're going to make childish sarcastic replies, that's fine, you do you, but at least do yourself the favour of spelling a name right.

Especially as it's written both above and below the messages. Lol

  

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Bikes / Re: Headlights

Last post by VSMaster - March 04, 2021, 08:10:53 PM

I had the file to make brakelights work but not sure that the new beta allows it?

Mr Piboso what is the light status now?

DD

Brake light still works, my friend converted Yamaha MT-125 with a rear brake light's working

Do they work in other bikes online?

It not the same as dash lights, where an 'on' and 'off' texture is needed?

correct

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Off Topic / Re: The State of Modern MotoGP...

Last post by HornetMaX - March 04, 2021, 04:41:17 PM

ABS is a safety feature, no doubt about that, no one is arguing that is a fact

Well, no one except MysticPrune, apparently.

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Off Topic / Re: The State of Modern MotoGP...

Last post by Myst1cPrun3 - March 04, 2021, 03:24:35 PM

Also, EU law prevents manufacturers from allowing their systems to be turned 100% off, meaning that no matter what, all new bikes have it on all the time. It can be turned down but (depending on manufacturer) it usuallt still cuts in even at 'country' road riding speed/style

And they do this because, as everybody knows, ABS is bad for safety, of course.

ABS is a safety feature, no doubt about that, no one is arguing that is a fact, but it's a feature that should be a personal option for each individual rider.
What I personally have an issue with is the fact that it's forced upon the rider. It's just another example of a mothering state taking away personal choice, telling one how one will do things rather than allowing one to make a choice.
For many riders who have little experience and don't ride a bike regularly, riders we used to call "Sunday Riders" not bikers I can understand that ABS would be a sensible option for them to have in operation as those kind of riders are more likely to get themselves into trouble, but for the experienced regular rider, the daily rider, it takes away from their skills and experience as a rider, simple as that.

The mothering state needs to stop!

I agree with most tbh, and perhaps I worded badly. (More than likely)

ABS was introduced for safety, it's just that in practice this isn't the case, as it is juddering and (at the minute) not smooth in its application.

A new rider, (like me) would find this very 'unnerving' (I do) as the suspension on anything that's not a superbike  is not what you'd call good for providing feedback. Add that into bad road conditions like in the UK, and then add constantly releasing and reapplying the brakes into that.... It simply isn't safe.

It's funny really the only one that isn't developed for speed, but is developed for safety turns out to be the one that is perhaps the most unsafe