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[Meyer#12]

I think for now, the 125GP is actually better for newcomers, at least at Mallory, the stability in the Hairpin on this bike is insane compared to the M3, and if you learn to ride this bike into 48 times or so, you are where the bike starts to be hard to ride faster and the problems come. Doing 50 and 49 times on this bike, it will be more stabil than anything!

That is just my opinion

BTW had a run earlier with Kerazo, he did a 46,96 and i managed another 47,0 in about my 15lap test. It is all about the hairpin if you need to break into the 46 times

[Blackheart]

I do not touch the suspension I did 47 with Alby, but in our opinion is not the best for beginners, though we maybe we fall because we always try to push hard 

If you can give me the set up,  I can see if it improves the tyres situation 

[Napalm Nick]

The fastest riders seem to be pushing the bike past its capabilities. Maybe not all the bikes fault?

For me the bike is still better than my capability, and look - no problems on track. 

I think rookies have a lot to learn using the 125 not just fastest laps.

[Meyer#12]

The problem with the 125GP is, that when you push hard, front tyre get warm and slides, there is ways to prevent that on this track and my suspension is pretty much default.

It is all about the racing line here and after 1 crash, front reaches 100 degrees which is almost double of optimal.

Trough first bend, you have to stick to the inside of the black line (middle of track) because it seems there is a tiny bump there, which make the front slip.

I found my way round, where when i dont push to the max and go steady laps, i can 47,2-47,7 every lap for 10 laps and no crashes.

The reason we all crash, is we push to the limit of what is possible with this bike

[Napalm Nick]

Agree.

Another funny is that I can go faster on this than I did using the 500 Suzuki so maybe a 500s vs 125s race is due.......

maybe 47s is my maximum time on any bike, interesting lol.

[Napalm Nick]

Oh and it is a real good point - when the bikes crash (any bike in the game as far as I can see) the tyres are wrecked by high temperatures as far as I, and others have seen. Crash = Pit in, or ride slow for 2 laps.

Whats going on there then with the tyre physics???

[Blackheart]

The problem with the 125GP is, that when you push hard, front tyre get warm and slides, there is ways to prevent that on this track and my suspension is pretty much default.

It is all about the racing line here and after 1 crash, front reaches 100 degrees which is almost double of optimal.

Trough first bend, you have to stick to the inside of the blac line (middle of track) because it seems there is a tiny bump there, which make the front slip.

I found my way round, where when i dont push to the max and go steady laps, i can 47,2-47,7 every lap for 10 laps and no crashes.

The reason we all crash, is we push to the limit of what is possible with this bike

Fully I agree with you, I was talking in game knowing that if you fall, the side of the tyre exceeds 100 degrees.

Knowing the first corner you can post a mini replay with your line? To me it is difficult to maintain the same every lap 

[yan24]

It is not normal that after a fall that we are obliged to go to the stand(pit) because the tire too much warmed and for a beginner to make 2 tours(towers,ballots) without falling is especially very complicated with the 125gp. If we push too much the motorcycle we fall and if we are not on the good trajectory we fall. That is more going to disgust the news(short stories) than to improve them. That stays that my opinion(notice).

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[Napalm Nick]

Fair point Yan, however that particular problem is consistent with a lot (if not all?) bikes not just the 125.

Its something needs looking into.

[Vini]

I don't think the 125 is good for beginners, especially not on tracks with tight hairpins.

The front end bug is extremely demotivating.

[matty0l215]

I don't think the 125 is good for beginners, especially not on tracks with tight hairpins.

The front end bug is extremely demotivating.

Agreed, the 125 is not a perceptually nice bike to ride at the moment

Unless Nick and Meyer have found a magic setup

[Napalm Nick]

Just done another 40 laps without any issues don't know what you are all banging on about lol

[matty0l215]

Just done another 40 laps without any issues don't know what you are all banging on about lol

Unless Nick and Meyer have found a magic setup

Ummm

[Napalm Nick]

I will PM you my setup dude have a go 

its magic!

[Meyer#12]

It is about setup (close to default) and then the right line, then there is not as much problems, pretty close to none compared to the other bikes