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Windows 7 and Asus motherboard problems with Windows update.

Started by davidboda46, May 05, 2016, 09:08:41 PM

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davidboda46

"THE EDGE... THERE IS NO HONEST WAY TO EXPLAIN IT BECAUSE THE ONLY PEOPLE WHO REALLY KNOW WHERE IT IS ARE THE ONES WHO HAVE GONE OVER"

janaucarre


davidboda46

The jist of it:

"In short: Microsoft has made a seemingly small yet completely bizarre tweak to Windows Update on Windows 7 and confirmed it is crippling many users' PCs.

The tweak? It switched the status of Windows 7 update KB3133977 from 'Optional' to 'Recommended'. The bizarre part? Despite acknowledging the problems, Microsoft knew they would occur in advance and it has no plans to do anything about it.

Ok, let's put some meat on these bones.

PCs That Suddenly Won't Start

It all centres around Asus motherboards.

Now 27 years old, Asus is one of the largest PC component makers and supplies motherboards to many of the world's biggest PC makers. Recently it enabled Secure Boot in UEFI on all its motherboards. This wasn't a problem for older PCs because Windows 7 didn't support Secure Boot, that is until KB3133977 came along in March and enabled it.

Initially the fallout was small. Asus confirmed the problem, Microsoft confirmed the problem.  But the best news was KB3133977 was an optional Windows 7 update so it had to be manually installed to take effect. The solution was simple: just steer clear of KB3133977 (aka do nothing) and you'd be fine.

Then last month – for some bizarre reason – Microsoft made KB3133977 a 'Recommended' update. The result was every user running Windows 7 and default Windows Update settings (the vast majority) would find the update now installed automatically.

And then everyone with an Asus motherboard was hit." [...]

"The Good News And Staying Safe

The good news is Asus has now issued a workaround http://www.asus.com/support/FAQ/1016356/ to get PCs booting up again."

Cheers,

/David "Gonzo" Boda #46
"THE EDGE... THERE IS NO HONEST WAY TO EXPLAIN IT BECAUSE THE ONLY PEOPLE WHO REALLY KNOW WHERE IT IS ARE THE ONES WHO HAVE GONE OVER"

HornetMaX

I've read that the problem seems to be more on Asus side (source not really trusted, so ...): SecureBoot is not supported in Win7 and Asus has a non-standard implementation of it (in order to make it work with Win7). A recent (and seemingly legitimate) Microsoft update related to a bitlocker bug triggers the Asus problem.

janaucarre

Secure boot,  uefi bios, all that is s... T
I repare pc every week and most of time it's easier to install a clean OS.
There is no problem with old pc,  but new with 32 bit bios uefi,  what the hell!!!
Most of new pc is build for only one os,  and sometime,  rare but become more often,  you can't make anew install with the same os and a key or external cd,  that's a shame( HP ;-) )
There is also watermarks,  grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
The best when you buy a new pc:
Buy a tower pc and build yourself with different parts.  Control that bios is not uefi 32bits
If you can't or won't buy a tower,  buy a notebook with cd reader,  have a look at the bios,  don'tbuy the ccheapest price, ask if it's possible to install other os (look on google),  don't buy HP, LENOVO, SONY VAYO, that's the 3 with I'vehad the biggest pproblem.