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Brake issues

Started by MultiCOOLFRESH, July 13, 2016, 04:56:20 PM

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MultiCOOLFRESH

Hello,
I downloaded the gp bikes demo and I tried it out. But I have strange problems with the braking. When I am pulling the trigger of my controller completely back, the bike letrally does a frontflip. Even if I puu it to the half back, I do a wheelie. It just feels wrong, in my opinion and I am about to ride a 125ccm in real life.

Can anybody help me, because I really want to buy this game  :)
Heeeeeey Hoooooo <br /><br />

doubledragoncc

Hi and welcome to GPB forums.

First off, the demo bike is not the best bike to be judging GPB on.

What controller are you using and have you calibrated it and it may need xinput plugin for the triggers to work properly.

Download the plugin from here: http://forum.piboso.com/index.php?topic=95.0

You need to adjust linearity and deadzone possibly?

Do not get frustrated, it is just that you are not used to a real simulation and you need to set up your controller first.

Once you get a license and have mod bikes and access to the other GPB bikes it is much better.

DD

Hope this helps get you started
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BOBR6 84

i wouldn't bother buying a bike if i was you..  ;D ;D

joking aside.. what do you think is wrong? the actual ''front flip'' ? or the fact that the bike actually wants to endo or flip?

you have to brake as hard as possible.. yes, but in a split second ''squeeze'' and load up the suspension before jamming the brakes on full..

give it a try  ;)


Vini

July 13, 2016, 06:32:21 PM #3 Last Edit: July 14, 2016, 03:28:05 AM by vin97
takes a lot of practice
braking without braking pressure (like in real life) is difficult, so especially the initial moments of braking are tricky.
in order to have more fine control over the brake at the (stoppie or traction) limit, I position my braking fingertip not on the trigger but on the bit of plastic just beneath the trigger.
like this:


so i'm kind of sliding (the first joint of) my finger along the bottom side of the trigger instead of pressing down on it.
this allows a lot of pressure (as you can tell by the color of my fingertip) but still only having very small movement of the trigger so very fine and precise control. most importantly the shape and (intuitive) fingertip placement automatically creates a "limit" that makes it possible to quickly get maximum deceleration without just slamming the trigger to 100% and flipping the bike.

warning: it doesn't work so well when you have sweaty fingers.

MultiCOOLFRESH

Quote from: doubledragoncc on July 13, 2016, 05:19:05 PM
Hi and welcome to GPB forums.

First off, the demo bike is not the best bike to be judging GPB on.

What controller are you using and have you calibrated it and it may need xinput plugin for the triggers to work properly.

Download the plugin from here: http://forum.piboso.com/index.php?topic=95.0

You need to adjust linearity and deadzone possibly?

Do not get frustrated, it is just that you are not used to a real simulation and you need to set up your controller first.

Once you get a license and have mod bikes and access to the other GPB bikes it is much better.

DD

Hope this helps get you started


Thank you, I will download the plugin tomorrow :). I use a PS4 controller and I play a lot of car sims, but I race with a wheel and it feels so diffrent when you use a controller, even though it is a completely other game XD
Heeeeeey Hoooooo <br /><br />

MultiCOOLFRESH

Quote from: BOBR6 84 on July 13, 2016, 05:21:55 PM
i wouldn't bother buying a bike if i was you..  ;D ;D

joking aside.. what do you think is wrong? the actual ''front flip'' ? or the fact that the bike actually wants to endo or flip?

you have to brake as hard as possible.. yes, but in a split second ''squeeze'' and load up the suspension before jamming the brakes on full..

give it a try  ;)

I actually have a bike, a Cagiva Mito 125 and I am also geared up, I only need a driving license, but I am nearly done :). I think, that the front flip is wrong, not the stoppie. You do a stoppie when you hit the brakes too hard, but I think, that I do not hit the brakes too hard. I saw a youtube video were someone rode the same bike, only with this telemetry/data thing on and I saw, that he hit the brakes way more harder then me, but the bike was really flat. I will try everything out tomorrow :)
Heeeeeey Hoooooo <br /><br />

MultiCOOLFRESH

Quote from: vin97 on July 13, 2016, 06:32:21 PM
takes a lot of practice
braking without braking pressure (like in real life) is difficult, so especially the initial moments of braking are tricky.
in order to have more fine control over the brake at the (stoppie or traction) limit, I position my braking fingertip not on the trigger but on the bit of plastic just beneath the trigger.
like this:


so i'm kind of sliding (the first joint of) my finger along the bottom side of the trigger instead of pressing down on it.
this allows a lot of pressure (as you can see by the color of my fingertip) but still only having very small movement of the trigger so very fine and precise control. most importantly the shape and (intuitive) finger placement automatically creates a "limit" that makes it possible to quickly get maximum deceleration without just slamming the trigger to 100% and flipping the bike.

warning: it doesn't work so well when you have sweaty fingers.
Mal sehen ob es mit einem PS4 Controller funktioniert, aber ich probiere es aus. Ich will dieses Spiel echt meistern und eure Tips erleichtern mir es echt :)
Heeeeeey Hoooooo <br /><br />

h106frp

If you are from the world of car sims the first thing you will have to adjust to is the way the weight of a bike dynamically moves back and forth under acceleration and the limits this places on the use of brakes, throttle and steer.

Take it easy on your first real world bike rides and do not fall victim to the classic cornering and braking fails  ;)

Vini

Quote from: MultiCOOLFRESH on July 13, 2016, 07:20:31 PM
Mal sehen ob es mit einem PS4 Controller funktioniert, aber ich probiere es aus. Ich will dieses Spiel echt meistern und eure Tips erleichtern mir es echt :)
Ouhhh, das könnte knifflig werden, viel Erfolg trotzdem :D

MultiCOOLFRESH

Quote from: h106frp on July 13, 2016, 07:21:38 PM
If you are from the world of car sims the first thing you will have to adjust to is the way the weight of a bike dynamically moves back and forth under acceleration and the limits this places on the use of brakes, throttle and steer.

Take it easy on your first real world bike rides and do not fall victim to the classic cornering and braking fails  ;)

I will try it:)
Heeeeeey Hoooooo <br /><br />

MultiCOOLFRESH

Quote from: vin97 on July 13, 2016, 08:51:26 PM
Quote from: MultiCOOLFRESH on July 13, 2016, 07:20:31 PM
Mal sehen ob es mit einem PS4 Controller funktioniert, aber ich probiere es aus. Ich will dieses Spiel echt meistern und eure Tips erleichtern mir es echt :)
Ouhhh, das könnte knifflig werden, viel Erfolg trotzdem :D
Danke :)
Heeeeeey Hoooooo <br /><br />

doubledragoncc

I am not going to try a write in German as I can only speak it and then grammatically it's schisse lol.

Once you have the license, you can ride the MOD bikes and they handle better. It is very worth buying a license..................like NOW!!! lol

I can not ride with a gamepad so I can not help really. I take my hat of to you guys for being so dang quick with one. Actually amazing tbh.

DD
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MultiCOOLFRESH

Quote from: doubledragoncc on July 14, 2016, 08:25:57 AM
I am not going to try a write in German as I can only speak it and then grammatically it's schisse lol.

Once you have the license, you can ride the MOD bikes and they handle better. It is very worth buying a license..................like NOW!!! lol

I can not ride with a gamepad so I can not help really. I take my hat of to you guys for being so dang quick with one. Actually amazing tbh.

DD

I will buy the license today or tomorrow, because now I have a good feeling with the bike. Is a 1:43 at the victoria curcuit good? The support from you guys is amazing :)
Heeeeeey Hoooooo <br /><br />

Blackheart

If i remember well a Victoria good fast lap with 125 is 1:38+

MultiCOOLFRESH

Quote from: Blackheart on July 14, 2016, 10:28:06 AM
If i remember well a Victoria good fast lap with 125 is 1:38+

Ok, I will keep training myself :D
Heeeeeey Hoooooo <br /><br />