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Started by Olaf Lehmann, March 07, 2018, 04:35:27 pm

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teeds

Looks like just my last weeks replays are no good, worked fine this week?

Very handy utility Olaf, thanks very much.

Olaf Lehmann

Thanks!
It's important to save replay and export not to early. I saw it yesterday, because I saved the replay before all drivers finished the race.

BR Olaf

teeds

May 18, 2018, 12:06:32 pm #17 Last Edit: May 18, 2018, 12:12:32 pm by teeds
Yea is weird as I did have the full replay, I always wait until it says "Race Over". I think there were issues with the replay as some riders were disappearing lots.

Question, is it possible for your software to show each riders position during the race rather than their positions being represented with their race number?

Like this -

Where "Rider# Position" is the riders name.

I can make something look much nicer with data like that  ;)

Olaf Lehmann

What's your vision? Something like that:
http://race.eolc.de/Olaf_Lehmann/RaceGraphics.png ?

Quote from: teeds on May 18, 2018, 12:06:32 pm
Question, is it possible for your software to show each riders position during the race rather than their positions being represented with their race number?

It's possible. What you like best: Sorting by position at the finish or by starting number or rider names in alphabetic order?

BR Olaf

teeds

Quote from: Olaf Lehmann on May 18, 2018, 02:48:45 pm
What's your vision? Something like that:
http://race.eolc.de/Olaf_Lehmann/RaceGraphics.png ?


Yes that's what i'd like to achieve if possible.

Quote from: Olaf Lehmann on May 18, 2018, 02:48:45 pm
Quote from: teeds on May 18, 2018, 12:06:32 pm
Question, is it possible for your software to show each riders position during the race rather than their positions being represented with their race number?

It's possible. What you like best: Sorting by position at the finish or by starting number or rider names in alphabetic order?


I think for easiest viewing, order with pole at top. Also is it possible to add grid column to show before 1st lap positions like the example you show above?

Olaf Lehmann

May 19, 2018, 06:06:25 am #20 Last Edit: May 19, 2018, 06:13:05 am by Olaf Lehmann
Pole isn't  possible. The first data I found in replay is after lap 1.

I have another vision: I can produce such a table:








lap1lap2lap3Interim time driver1100.123200.123300.456Interim time driver2102.123203.123309.456Interim time driver3102.956202.123301.456

The times are in seconds. 100.123 is 1:40.123.
If Excel and God are on our side it should be easy to produce such an graph:
http://race.eolc.de/Olaf_Lehmann/RaceGraphics2.png
The times are in seconds. 100.123 is 1:40.123. In Germany we use 100,123 for decimal numbers. do you need . or , ?


teeds

NP I can amend the grid to output figures. Not sure what the use of the data in that graph is? Seems an odd view.

I think the . for times would be fine. Hopefully now we will not have to compare two races times ;)

Olaf Lehmann

So teeds, your table technology is ready and for the second table too. 
Nothing is changed at the old html file, but GPB_BestLap creates a second html file (with "_G" at the end of the filename).
The table above is your table. In my sight the graph made from this table has no really new informations in compariotion to the old race position table.
For me the second table gives really new informations. With help of this values is it's possible to show the differences of all drivers at every lap. It's possible to read-out the diffence s in seconds.
Maybe in same cases (if very slow drivers was in the race - me  8)) the automatic Excel value area is a bit too much.
Don't wonder about the values in the second table. If I explain it it would sound complicate - more complicate than it is.
If you would really understand that you find the calculation formula in the ReadMe file. See first post!

Here is the second graph from 20CET Motegi:
http://race.eolc.de/Olaf_Lehmann/R08motegi.png

The graph is not 100% correct (two Drivers are missing), because I saved my replay too early. If you use your replay and Export all should be correct.

BR Olaf

Grooveski

That's pretty cool  8) - very descriptive. 
Amusing to see Brody's attacks laid out like that.  :)
...and as I suspected - you're looking more steady these days too.  ;)  Knew you were hanging on as well for a while after I met up again with the pair of you.

teeds

June 11, 2018, 02:26:29 pm #24 Last Edit: June 11, 2018, 02:55:33 pm by teeds
Looks good and that visual graph would be good to find where the action was in a replay files  :) Did you make the graph in excel?

Quote from: Olaf Lehmann on May 24, 2018, 01:58:24 pm
The table above is your table. In my sight the graph made from this table has no really new informations in compariotion to the old race position table.


Your right, no new information, I just thought it looked preferable  ;D

Olaf Lehmann

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Looks good and that visual graph would be good to find where the action was in a replay files   Did you make the graph in excel?

Yes, I put the datas from the html file with "_G§ at the end in Excel and create the graph with it's help.
I have Excel not on the same PC where I have the replays and exports and I'm not an Excel professional. I think it would look better if the lines would be smaler.

BR Olaf


teeds

Fed it into excel and it made a nice graph  :D Do you know why the leaders times change and what is it relative to?

Olaf Lehmann

June 12, 2018, 01:24:40 pm #27 Last Edit: June 12, 2018, 01:27:13 pm by Olaf Lehmann
QuoteDo you know why the leaders times change and what is it relative to?

It's relative to the time that the race winner would have at the respective lap, if he would driven totally consistent.
In example: Let's say the race has 20 laps and the finish time of the winner is at the end 2000s. So the average laptime of the winner is 100s.
Lets say any driver's first laptime was 110s. So he get a value of (+)10.
Lets say this drivers total time after the second lap is 209s. So he gets a value of 209s-200s = (+)9.
If the winner was slow in this last lap(s) it could be he gets a negative value in the  forelast or foreforelast lap. It was the case at Motegi.

If the values would be relative to the leader of the respective laps and the leader mades a failure and wouldn't be outstriped the lines of all others drivers would look like they would was very fast.
In using of my system applies: Every drivers line gets downwards if he had made a failure whether he is the leader, winner or anywhere. And I think so it should be.

BR Olaf

Olaf Lehmann

Unfortunately bikes with only two characters like R6 was to short.
So I had to make a small update. Now GPB_BestLap_v1 should work with such bikes too.
The html files from yesterday testrace are in the zip file.

BR Olaf

teeds

Ha I wondered if you would try it, thanks for the update  :)