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The Direct Leaners Club (DLC)

Started by HornetMaX, April 18, 2014, 09:26:21 AM

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Alby46

Quote from: doubledragoncc on April 23, 2014, 09:24:37 PM
Hi guys IMHO you have to use Direct Lean to get the right reaction. I used to use a G27 which I first used to design my steering system which acts to counter steering but at the same time is exact for the lean angle of the bike to the handlebars on my system. I use a mini joystick on the left handlebar next to the clutch lever for rider left/right lean and front/rear lean.

IASystems "Fullthrottle HS1" controller (Full race bodied sit-on version)  Only link left as my server is down, scroll down to "Un contrôleur moto pour votre PC". This is a system I am building and no mini joysticks on it yet. As you can see DOH its also with no race body kit. Setting up new server now. Thats not me on it in the grey I aint that old lol.






http://www.theracingline.fr/tag/SimRacing%20-%20Mat%C3%A9riel/5

Direct Lean = YES
Rider left/right lean = Yes, left mini joystick.
finally you came in this forum lol
welcome lol, glad to see you again
Still riding a 50cc, but enjoying it :)

HornetMaX

Quote from: Taliessyn on April 24, 2014, 07:36:35 AM
I've actually started using manual lean with direct on recently. I find I lose traction a lot less coming out of a extreme sharp turn by easing off on lean first manually before standing the bike up.
That's very interesting !

MaX.

Klax75

Quote from: HornetMaX on April 24, 2014, 08:53:12 AM
Quote from: Taliessyn on April 24, 2014, 07:36:35 AM
I've actually started using manual lean with direct on recently. I find I lose traction a lot less coming out of a extreme sharp turn by easing off on lean first manually before standing the bike up.
That's very interesting !

MaX.

I've noticed this too, I don't use direct lean, but in tight corners. When I can feel the bike begin to wobble, I'll slowly get my rider behind the wind screen and I can feel the traction come back and the wobble go away even if my the turn radius hasn't changed.

Hawk

Hmmm... This does sound like it could be an issue with the way the virtual rider works with the bike? Sounds like the virtual rider could be unbalancing the bike when on auto lean, and helps counter unbalance if riders use manual lean.... Yes interesting observations guys. ;)

doubledragoncc

Quote from: Alby46 on April 24, 2014, 07:58:54 AM
Quote from: doubledragoncc on April 23, 2014, 09:24:37 PM
Hi guys IMHO you have to use Direct Lean to get the right reaction. I used to use a G27 which I first used to design my steering system which acts to counter steering but at the same time is exact for the lean angle of the bike to the handlebars on my system. I use a mini joystick on the left handlebar next to the clutch lever for rider left/right lean and front/rear lean.

IASystems "Fullthrottle HS1" controller (Full race bodied sit-on version)  Only link left as my server is down, scroll down to "Un contrôleur moto pour votre PC". This is a system I am building and no mini joysticks on it yet. As you can see DOH its also with no race body kit. Setting up new server now. Thats not me on it in the grey I aint that old lol.






http://www.theracingline.fr/tag/SimRacing%20-%20Mat%C3%A9riel/5

Direct Lean = YES
Rider left/right lean = Yes, left mini joystick.
finally you came in this forum lol
welcome lol, glad to see you again

Thanks man good to be back. Been a frickin hard year.  I am working on a system that will use the body of the rider on one of my systems to control the rider in the sim, but its quite hard to keep cost down. Been working with gyros and accelerometers so hope to be testing soon. A head tracking system would be the dogs bollocks for rider control.
GPBOC Live Streams: https://www.youtube.com/c/IASystemsComputerControls; i7 7700 4.8GHz z270 ASUS Maximus Code Mobo 16GB 3866MHz DDR4 RAM ASUS Strix RTX2070 OC 8GB DDR6 Kraken X62 AIO Cooler ROG Thor 850w PSU in ROG Helios Tower Case.
https://paypal.me/IASystems

BerScott

I'm really interested in get a way to manage to manually lean, but as I'm using a steering wheel I'm not sure if two hands will be enought. Also I've assigned the main inputs like a car, that means that I use the three pedals like a car, with the difference that the clutch pedal is used for the rear brake. And yes, I must say that I'm using a automatic clutch (I'm so noob).

An axis attached to the body would be interesting to manually control leaning, but I would feel ridiculous moving my body in front of my desktop ::) But is pretty clear that to take control of the lean is essential to have a better riding experience.

Alby46

really, i missed you, i didn't know how to enjoy this forum
Still riding a 50cc, but enjoying it :)

doubledragoncc

Thanks Alby, back atya bro. Was in Wisconsin to help a customer with a world record on his turbo 1200 Bandit (130mph on the rear wheel on lake wisconsin} Ended up dating his mum and it went to shit lol. I have a meetin with a backer next week and hope to be able to really get into making the system with rider movement through the body movement but a lot of work. Any ideas welcome and l will try them out is they seem good.
GPBOC Live Streams: https://www.youtube.com/c/IASystemsComputerControls; i7 7700 4.8GHz z270 ASUS Maximus Code Mobo 16GB 3866MHz DDR4 RAM ASUS Strix RTX2070 OC 8GB DDR6 Kraken X62 AIO Cooler ROG Thor 850w PSU in ROG Helios Tower Case.
https://paypal.me/IASystems

ChrisK

April 27, 2014, 04:18:49 PM #23 Last Edit: April 27, 2014, 04:24:55 PM by ChrisK
also direct lean here

using a selfmade handlebar with throttle, front brake, clutch(rear brake) and thump throttle on left side for clutch, handelbar is mounted on a logitech momo force

HornetMaX

Quote from: ChrisK on April 27, 2014, 04:18:49 PM
also direct lean here

using a selfmade handlebar with throttle, front brake, clutch(rear brake) and thump throttle on left side for clutch, handelbar is mounted on a logitech momo force

Pictures of the thing ?

MaX.

ChrisK

haha atm its all hot glue, tesa, a honda cl 250 clutch lever, kawasaki el throttle, kid bycicle brake, thump throttle is from a rock shox lock out lever etc. etc.

all parts was from my garage i so it cost me 0€

so nothing special to see, it was just for testing if i can build a handlebar controller, now i buy some good potis and boards from leo bodnar.

here a video in bad quality
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8fJQguGZbM

doubledragoncc

Quote from: ChrisK on April 28, 2014, 10:09:12 AM
haha atm its all hot glue, tesa, a honda cl 250 clutch lever, kawasaki el throttle, kid bycicle brake, thump throttle is from a rock shox lock out lever etc. etc.

all parts was from my garage i so it cost me 0€

so nothing special to see, it was just for testing if i can build a handlebar controller, now i buy some good potis and boards from leo bodnar.

here a video in bad quality
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8fJQguGZbM

I use the BU0836X from Leo and it is the best one he makes. It has 32 digital inputs, 1 4-way POV and 8 analog inputs which also take his load cell accelerator for brakes. Works best with 10K pots Vishay are the best for their price. Fungizmos have mini joysticks and board for about $8 and Opentip have buttons and switches from $1.95 better parts than Radio Shack and all online. Hope that helps. The BU0836X also has solderless connecters. Heres some links

http://www.opentip.com/index.php?cPath=25387&keywords=switches&page=2

http://store.fungizmos.com/items/295

http://www.leobodnar.com/shop/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=67&products_id=180

I use gears from RC cars at the moment but they are expensive but needed to get the right amount of steering or it can be to sensitive with Direct Lean on.
GPBOC Live Streams: https://www.youtube.com/c/IASystemsComputerControls; i7 7700 4.8GHz z270 ASUS Maximus Code Mobo 16GB 3866MHz DDR4 RAM ASUS Strix RTX2070 OC 8GB DDR6 Kraken X62 AIO Cooler ROG Thor 850w PSU in ROG Helios Tower Case.
https://paypal.me/IASystems

ChrisK

April 28, 2014, 05:26:48 PM #27 Last Edit: April 28, 2014, 05:50:39 PM by ChrisK
oh that helps alot, thank you   :-*

have u seen a poti like this before?

http://www.conrad.de/ce/de/product/442162/ALPS-Stereo-Flachbahnschieberegler-RS60N12-10KBX2-Stereo-10-k-02-W-20-?ref=list

sorry the site is in german.

i was thinking its easyer for wire connection but i dont know how good it works

HornetMaX

April 28, 2014, 07:06:33 PM #28 Last Edit: April 28, 2014, 07:08:11 PM by HornetMaX
I know others (Sh@rk) use linear pots for their analog controls (throttle handle, brake/clutch levers).

I can't judge on the quality of that specific item, only thing I know ALPS produce some pretty good stuff for hifi audio (that pot is "stereo", i.e. has two pots linked to the same slider).

MaX.

ChrisK

ah ok thx for the info.

have shark post some photos anywhere?