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Title: Beta 5 Bugs.
Post by: Klax75 on June 21, 2014, 07:57:04 AM
So far what I've found for Beta5.

Pros: Rider animations for manual rider lean, and DST are that of Default steering, and auto lean. Which is nice, no more snap down when you hit 90mph. And in DST you don't look stiff. The 125cc, and 990, the shift light works again. It worked in Beta3, but stopped in Beta4.

Cons: I can't get any MOD bike to work. Which I understand since they are MODs. But I can't get default bikes to work if I have the full bike copied. All the files, from the bikes.pkz. Even the default bikes if I have them in the bikes folder if I go to track, I hear a windows alert, GP Bike freezes, then crashes when I hit enter a few times. If I have just the Paints folder, and the camera.cfg (Camera file so I can have track auto-zoom) file from them defaults bikes folder they will work.

I've also noticed when in helmet view, my rider is noticeably taller. Like by 6 inches or more, even when he tucks in fully on the 125cc, and 500cc he is looking over the wind screen. On the 990 he doesn't get as low enough either. In 3rd person he looks good, but in helmet view he is much higher then in previous betas. So it makes riding a very distracting.

(Removed from Beta 5 announcement thread, and re-posted in to the Bugs thread)
Title: Re: Beta 5 Bugs.
Post by: HornetMaX on June 21, 2014, 10:44:14 AM
Couple of minor 3d glitches (not fixed by beta5):

MaX.
Title: Re: Beta 5 Bugs.
Post by: Alby46 on June 21, 2014, 12:10:03 PM
of course no mod works, they need to be updated
Title: Re: Beta 5 Bugs.
Post by: matty0l215 on June 21, 2014, 05:32:28 PM
Quote from: PiBoSo on June 20, 2014, 05:13:59 PM
Please note that bike mods must be updated.
Check for "chain_pitch" in the geom file.

could this fix this MOD bike issues??
Title: Re: Beta 5 Bugs.
Post by: PeterV on June 21, 2014, 06:35:37 PM
Quote from: matty0l215 on June 21, 2014, 05:32:28 PM
Quote from: PiBoSo on June 20, 2014, 05:13:59 PM
Please note that bike mods must be updated.
Check for "chain_pitch" in the geom file.

could this fix this MOD bike issues??

Well i tried what you suggested and added two lines to the GEOM file of 2 mod bikes and they work fine.
But better wait for the modders to update there bikes.

** Sorry for the OT here, place it somewhere where it belongs admin.
Title: Re: Beta 5 Bugs.
Post by: Klax75 on June 21, 2014, 08:25:02 PM
Just noticed in beta 5, it doesn't show my X-Box 360, and X-Box One controller. In Beta 4, I could switch between them, in the calibration screen. I use XBCD for my controllers since I race other sim's also.
Title: Re: Beta 5 Bugs.
Post by: HornetMaX on June 21, 2014, 09:31:43 PM
I see both my xbox 360 and xbox one in beta5 (but I don't use XBCD).

MaX.
Title: Re: Beta 5 Bugs.
Post by: Klax75 on June 22, 2014, 11:53:00 PM
I noticed your racing number doesn't seem to want to put what you selected in your profile. When I practice offline it keeps telling me my number is 2. Even when I put 75 if my profile. When I get online it told me my racing number was 25.
Title: Re: Beta 5 Bugs.
Post by: Warlock on June 23, 2014, 12:47:53 AM
Core crash when hit settings button online
Title: Re: Beta 5 Bugs.
Post by: Alby46 on June 23, 2014, 07:06:59 AM
Quote from: Klax75 on June 22, 2014, 11:53:00 PM
I noticed your racing number doesn't seem to want to put what you selected in your profile. When I practice offline it keeps telling me my number is 2. Even when I put 75 if my profile. When I get online it told me my racing number was 25.
me too
Title: Re: Beta 5 Bugs.
Post by: Hawk on June 23, 2014, 07:55:22 AM
Quote from: Alby46 on June 23, 2014, 07:06:59 AM
Quote from: Klax75 on June 22, 2014, 11:53:00 PM
I noticed your racing number doesn't seem to want to put what you selected in your profile. When I practice offline it keeps telling me my number is 2. Even when I put 75 if my profile. When I get online it told me my racing number was 25.
me too

Same problem for me: I have #7 in my profile and it tells me my number is #2 when testing in offline mode(not sure about online mode).

Hawk.
Title: Re: Beta 5 Bugs.
Post by: Alby46 on June 23, 2014, 08:17:31 AM
i deleted piboso folder in documents and it seems to be fixed
Title: Re: Beta 5 Bugs.
Post by: Klax75 on June 23, 2014, 09:20:50 AM
I just got a new crash bug. All of a sudden, I can't switch bikes. I only have the default bikes right now. I tried deleting my gpbikes documents folder. So it would make a new one, but that didn't help. When I go to switch bike class from 1000, to a 500, or 125. I get a windows spinning wheel and nothing happens. If I hit return GP Bike crashes. I was trying with Victoria. :/ Then I tried with other tracks same result.
Title: Re: Beta 5 Bugs.
Post by: HornetMaX on June 23, 2014, 09:23:25 AM
Klax, try to reinstall the game (on top of the current install).

MaX.
Title: Re: Beta 5 Bugs.
Post by: guigui404 on June 23, 2014, 09:23:35 AM
don't know if it work but try to launch the game as administrator
Title: Re: Beta 5 Bugs.
Post by: Klax75 on June 23, 2014, 09:37:37 AM
Quote from: HornetMaX on June 23, 2014, 09:23:25 AM
Klax, try to reinstall the game (on top of the current install).

MaX.

Just tried didn't help. :/ I can use the 990, but can't switch to anything else. Even with new profiles.

Quote from: guigui404 on June 23, 2014, 09:23:35 AM
don't know if it work but try to launch the game as administrator

Already have been.
Title: Re: Beta 5 Bugs.
Post by: Miglitol on June 23, 2014, 12:15:00 PM
Hi guys, another bug that i cant fix...

The game show me when i choose Online this message " Old Version: Please update"  But i just did it  :'(


Anyone with the same problem?
Title: Re: Beta 5 Bugs.
Post by: Hawk on June 23, 2014, 12:18:01 PM
Quote from: Klax75 on June 23, 2014, 09:37:37 AM
Quote from: HornetMaX on June 23, 2014, 09:23:25 AM
Klax, try to reinstall the game (on top of the current install).

MaX.

Just tried didn't help. :/ I can use the 990, but can't switch to anything else. Even with new profiles.

Quote from: guigui404 on June 23, 2014, 09:23:35 AM
don't know if it work but try to launch the game as administrator

Already have been.

Hi Klax.

Just read this and decided to try it myself to see if I suffer same fate, but mine is still working fine: I tested by going to "Test"(Track selected was Silverstone), selected "Bike"(to change bike category), Selected category 1000cc/ 500cc/both 125cc bikes respectively and all changed to the selected categories without a problem. So sorry Klax, I have no idea what problem is causing this core crash for you, unless you still have the MOD bikes installed as well as your said beta 5 default bikes? Maybe for some reason that is clashing with the category selection procedure? I have only the beta 5 default bikes installed.

Hawk.
Title: Re: Beta 5 Bugs.
Post by: Hawk on June 23, 2014, 12:25:02 PM
Quote from: Miglitol on June 23, 2014, 12:15:00 PM
Hi guys, another bug that i cant fix...

The game show me when i choose Online this message " Old Version: Please update"  But i just did it  :'(


Anyone with the same problem?

Hi Miglitol.

Are you sure you did a totally fresh reinstall(no copy pasting setups or old beta 4 default bikes/Mod Bikes etc, etc)? Did you delete the beta 4 version of the "C:\Program Files\GP Bikes" folder? Also the beta 4 version of the "My Documents/Piboso"  folder too before the new beta 5 was installed?

Hawk.
Title: Re: Beta 5 Bugs.
Post by: Rodrigovis on June 24, 2014, 03:05:03 AM
personally i downloaded the beta 5
uninstalled the beta 4 ...
but when I install Beta 5 it does not install the core.exe
can someone help me??
Title: Re: Beta 5 Bugs.
Post by: RBp on June 24, 2014, 05:20:55 AM
Is the track animation not working?
Title: Re: Beta 5 Bugs.
Post by: Alby46 on June 24, 2014, 07:31:21 AM
Quote from: Rodrigovis on June 24, 2014, 03:05:03 AM
personally i downloaded the beta 5
uninstalled the beta 4 ...
but when I install Beta 5 it does not install the core.exe
can someone help me??
what do you mean?
Title: Re: Beta 5 Bugs.
Post by: BOBR6 84 on June 24, 2014, 07:32:36 AM
Quote from: Rodrigovis on June 24, 2014, 03:05:03 AM
personally i downloaded the beta 5
uninstalled the beta 4 ...
but when I install Beta 5 it does not install the core.exe
can someone help me??

Check your anti-virus it blocks the core.exe!
Title: Re: Beta 5 Bugs.
Post by: guigui404 on June 24, 2014, 07:36:27 AM
Quote from: Rodrigovis on June 24, 2014, 03:05:03 AM
personally i downloaded the beta 5
uninstalled the beta 4 ...
but when I install Beta 5 it does not install the core.exe
can someone help me??
that's avast he delete core.exe , make an exeption in avast :) or disable avast !
Title: Re: Beta 5 Bugs.
Post by: BOBR6 84 on June 24, 2014, 07:37:48 AM
Sometimes when the rider falls off the back of the bike he dissapears into the ground!

Not an issue for me really but things like this seem to be core.exe crash territory..
Title: Re: Beta 5 Bugs.
Post by: Stout Johnson on June 24, 2014, 10:19:38 AM
Quote from: BOBR6 84 on June 24, 2014, 07:37:48 AM
Sometimes when the rider falls off the back of the bike he dissapears into the ground!

Not an issue for me really but things like this seem to be core.exe crash territory..

yeah saw that happen too and might prolly be involved in some cores...
Title: Re: Beta 5 Bugs.
Post by: janaucarre on June 24, 2014, 11:13:43 AM
when some rider has a fall, i can see the pilot across the track at more than 50m of height, and that's happens for a long time.
Title: Re: Beta 5 Bugs.
Post by: Rodrigovis on June 24, 2014, 11:15:28 AM
Quote from: BOBR6 84 on June 24, 2014, 07:37:48 AM
Sometimes when the rider falls off the back of the bike he dissapears into the ground!

Not an issue for me really but things like this seem to be core.exe crash territory..

Ok... thanks :) :D ;D
Title: Re: Beta 5 Bugs.
Post by: nedzer on June 24, 2014, 07:16:33 PM

Hi guys
getting this message when try go  Online  " Old Version: Please update"  deleted all beta 4 then installed 5


Any ideas??
Title: Re: Beta 5 Bugs.
Post by: Warlock on June 24, 2014, 07:44:09 PM
got the beta5b version?
Title: Re: Beta 5 Bugs.
Post by: nedzer on June 24, 2014, 08:04:43 PM
ye have beta 5b version
Title: Re: Beta 5 Bugs.
Post by: Hawk on June 24, 2014, 08:11:56 PM
Quote from: nedzer on June 24, 2014, 07:16:33 PM

Hi guys
getting this message when try go  Online  " Old Version: Please update"  deleted all beta 4 then installed 5


Any ideas??

Did you delete the beta 5 version of the "Piboso" folder in your "My Documents" folder before installing Beta5b?

Hawk.
Title: Re: Beta 5 Bugs.
Post by: nedzer on June 24, 2014, 08:53:02 PM

just done it now dat worked thanks
Hawk.
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Title: Re: Beta 5 Bugs.
Post by: Ian on June 24, 2014, 09:03:23 PM
I have a gear change problem when I use the back brake.
I have automatic clutch and shift help on,tried shift help off no different and I have gearbox preload selected
If I press the back brake a little about half way to the R in "R Brake" in the Maxhud input slider I can change up and down
Press it a bit more then I can only change up
Press it past the R in "R Brake" and I can no longer change up
At first I thought the button on the Xbox 360 was faulty my rear brake is on a pedal maybe its my setup

Title: Re: Beta 5 Bugs.
Post by: HornetMaX on June 24, 2014, 09:22:28 PM
If each version of GPB installed itself by default in his own folder (e.g. "program files/GP Bikes beta5b") ad used a different data directory (e.g. "documents/Piboso/GP Bikes beta5b"), plenty plenty of issues (mostly affecting newcomers) would disappear instantly. And our old chaps (ehm, experienced users, I meant) wouldn't have to reply to this sort of trivial issues. It's a 30 seconds fix.

Quote from: Ian on June 24, 2014, 09:03:23 PM
I have a gear change problem when I use the back brake.
I have automatic clutch and shift help on,tried shift help off no different and I have gearbox preload selected
If I press the back brake a little about half way to the R in "R Brake" in the Maxhud input slider I can change up and down
Press it a bit more then I can only change up
Press it past the R in "R Brake" and I can no longer change up
At first I thought the button on the Xbox 360 was faulty my rear brake is on a pedal maybe its my setup
I can't try it (and won't be able to try for at least 1 month), but why are you using gearbox preload ? Do you know how it is supposed to work ?

On a more general level, missed shifts (mostly downshifts) reported by many are a consequence of the reduction of the DisengageMaxTorque (150 --> 100 for the 990 from beta4b to beta5/5b). When there's is torque being "transferred" by the gearbox (either from the engine to the wheel or from the wheel to the engine), if that torque is more than the set limit, the gearbox won't disengage and shift won't happen.
Shifting up this should not happen on the 990, as it has a shifter (that is supposed to cut the injection so that there's no/little generated torque).

MaX.
Title: Re: Beta 5 Bugs.
Post by: Ian on June 24, 2014, 09:52:16 PM
I believe you told me how it works Max, I was just trying it out
I have turned the preload off but its still the same I forgot to mention I am riding the 125
Title: Re: Beta 5 Bugs.
Post by: HornetMaX on June 24, 2014, 09:56:51 PM
Quote from: Ian on June 24, 2014, 09:52:16 PM
I believe you told me how it works Max, I was just trying it out
I have turned the preload off but its still the same I forgot to mention I am riding the 125
OK, just wanted to be sure. I don't think anyone use the gearbox preload so we may have little feedback on it.

In any case, if I recall correctly, the reduction in the disengagemaxtorque has been applied to all the (default) bikes, each one in his own manner, but it was significant for all the bikes (if my memory is not completely gone). the explanation should apply to the 125 too then.

MaX.
Title: Re: Beta 5 Bugs.
Post by: Rodrigovis on June 25, 2014, 02:50:19 AM
(http://img4.hostingpics.net/thumbs/mini_361550screen025.jpg) (http://www.hostingpics.net/viewer.php?id=361550screen025.jpg)

what did I do wrong?
how to fix??
Title: Re: Beta 5 Bugs.
Post by: C21 on June 25, 2014, 07:15:13 AM
QuoteOK, just wanted to be sure. I don't think anyone use the gearbox preload so we may have little feedback on it.

In any case, if I recall correctly, the reduction in the disengagemaxtorque has been applied to all the (default) bikes, each one in his own manner, but it was significant for all the bikes (if my memory is not completely gone). the explanation should apply to the 125 too then.

MaX.
I tested the preloaded gearbox yesterday to see if it´s a differnce but can´t see any.
Ok, i only did 5 laps but the gearbox behave similar in both cases.
Don´t have any issue with the downshifts....
Speaking about Beta5b!
Riding the 125cc of course  ;) (Didn´t try the bigger ones yet).
Title: Re: Beta 5 Bugs.
Post by: BOBR6 84 on June 25, 2014, 08:11:07 AM
Hmm mixed reports.. For me personally downshifting hasnt missed a beat. Spot on!

Finding I can tune out the wobbles etc..

Main issue for beta5b for me and many is nervous front end in slow corners! Actually feels better than beta4b at high speed to me..

Everything else physics wise is improved imo..
Title: Re: Beta 5 Bugs.
Post by: Ian on June 25, 2014, 12:48:18 PM
Quote from: HornetMaX on June 24, 2014, 09:56:51 PM
Quote from: Ian on June 24, 2014, 09:52:16 PM
I believe you told me how it works Max, I was just trying it out
I have turned the preload off but its still the same I forgot to mention I am riding the 125
OK, just wanted to be sure. I don't think anyone use the gearbox preload so we may have little feedback on it.

In any case, if I recall correctly, the reduction in the disengagemaxtorque has been applied to all the (default) bikes, each one in his own manner, but it was significant for all the bikes (if my memory is not completely gone). the explanation should apply to the 125 too then.

MaX.
That makes sense,a while back I watched a lap of Victoria posted on here,the rider was using the rear brake a lot more then I was so I tried it myself and it helped the bike turn better.
At the time I thought it was very unrealistic but it helped me lap better, its obviously been corrected in the new beta .Its just a bad habit that I will have to stop.
Title: Re: Beta 5 Bugs.
Post by: Hawk on June 25, 2014, 01:37:00 PM
Quote from: nedzer on June 24, 2014, 08:53:02 PM

just done it now dat worked thanks
Hawk.

Thanks nedez.

Glad I could help mate.  ;)

Hawk.
Title: Re: Beta 5 Bugs.
Post by: Harrytmj66 on June 26, 2014, 07:32:55 AM
Getting Core.EXE when trying to change bikes (I am not using MOD bikes)
Title: Re: Beta 5 Bugs.
Post by: Klax75 on June 26, 2014, 08:12:22 AM
I got this. Trying to remember how I fixed it. I think I deleted my profiles completely in the documents folder. Don't delete your license key. I made all new profiles and it seemed to work.
Title: Re: Beta 5 Bugs.
Post by: Harrytmj66 on June 26, 2014, 08:32:55 AM
Quote from: Klax75 on June 26, 2014, 08:12:22 AM
I got this. Trying to remember how I fixed it. I think I deleted my profiles completely in the documents folder. Don't delete your license key. I made all new profiles and it seemed to work.

I tried that but with no luck  :(
Thanks for the help though
Title: Re: Beta 5 Bugs.
Post by: Klax75 on June 26, 2014, 08:41:43 AM
Try reinstalling Beta 5b, and delete the profile. Start up the game make a new default profile see if you can switch bikes.

Other thing I did was when I was getting where I couldn't go online. Deleted my bikes folder, then I made a copy of the bike.pkz, changed it to bike.zip. Unzipped it, and used the new bikes folder from the unzip.
Title: Re: Beta 5 Bugs.
Post by: janaucarre on June 26, 2014, 10:46:10 AM
i have the same issue than Ian, whe i use the rear brake and attempt to downshift, sometimes it doesn't works. That happens with the 990 and the 500.
Title: Re: Beta 5 Bugs.
Post by: BOBR6 84 on June 26, 2014, 11:01:41 AM
Quote from: janaucarre on June 26, 2014, 10:46:10 AM
i have the same issue than Ian, whe i use the rear brake and attempt to downshift, sometimes it doesn't works. That happens with the 990 and the 500.

Maybe the rear brake is stopping the wheel from turning slightly.. Are you using manual clutch on downshift? Or just going down the gears without clutch?
Title: Re: Beta 5 Bugs.
Post by: janaucarre on June 26, 2014, 11:03:26 AM
automatic clutch and no help shifting.
Title: Re: Beta 5 Bugs.
Post by: Ian on June 26, 2014, 12:36:05 PM
Quote from: janaucarre on June 26, 2014, 10:46:10 AM
i have the same issue than Ian, whe i use the rear brake and attempt to downshift, sometimes it doesn't works. That happens with the 990 and the 500.
If you are not using a button for your brakes go to the calibration page and adjust the gain to 50% for the rear brake
Title: Re: Beta 5 Bugs.
Post by: janaucarre on June 26, 2014, 01:48:53 PM
thx i will try it.
Title: Re: Beta 5 Bugs.
Post by: C21 on June 27, 2014, 06:20:41 AM
Don´t know if it was mentioned before.
The Movement of the replay camera does not work anymore!!
I can´t move the cam as before in B4B when using "free" or "free - roam" option.
Could this be fixed soon?
Title: Re: Beta 5 Bugs.
Post by: Klax75 on June 27, 2014, 06:44:18 AM
After I made a new profile the camera was fixed. Ever free roam camera didn't start at start finish line it was at where the bike was located on track.
Title: Re: Beta 5 Bugs.
Post by: C21 on June 27, 2014, 08:25:26 AM
@Klax.
New profile did it  ;D
Thank you mate.
Title: Re: Beta 5 Bugs.
Post by: Klax75 on June 27, 2014, 11:44:56 AM
Quote from: C21 on June 27, 2014, 08:25:26 AM
@Klax.
New profile did it  ;D
Thank you mate.

Glad it work. :)
Title: Re: Beta 5 Bugs.
Post by: HornetMaX on June 29, 2014, 01:14:51 PM
Quote from: janaucarre on June 26, 2014, 10:46:10 AM
i have the same issue than Ian, whe i use the rear brake and attempt to downshift, sometimes it doesn't works. That happens with the 990 and the 500.
Same problem, same explanation :)

http://forum.piboso.com/index.php?topic=1221.msg15810#msg15810 (http://forum.piboso.com/index.php?topic=1221.msg15810#msg15810)

MaX.
Title: Re: Beta 5 Bugs.
Post by: Klax75 on June 30, 2014, 07:14:55 PM
Yesterday in the last race of the Red Bull Rookies Championship. I had a weird thing happen. I got out of sync with the other riders, which that has happened before in previous betas. But this time, the clock was all negative numbers. So when the sighting lap started I couldn't tell what it was doing. Since the numbers were -2:-32, or -3:-25, then the race would just start and I'd be kicked back to the timing screen.
Title: Re: Beta 5 Bugs.
Post by: BOBR6 84 on July 01, 2014, 06:09:13 PM
downloaded mod 1.85.. im finding the updated 600's completely unridable..

too much engine braking.. fact
Title: Re: Beta 5 Bugs.
Post by: MarcL on July 04, 2014, 02:25:31 PM
Just installed beta5b and got rid of all previous documents folders etc. I'm noticing some incredibly weird physics bugs.

First one I noticed was that under circumstances where you'd fall instantly (high speed, high angle of lean, clipping a curb) the front wheel appears to steer into the corner, slide, smoke and then keep going.

Another thing i noticed while on the 125 was that when i entered the S/F straight at PI, going over the crest, the front wheel lightened up (i remained on the throttle) and as soon as it was loaded again, the bike went into a violent oscillation/tank slapper which I can only compare to Paul Orritt's Isle of Man crash. Letting off the throttle resulted in a similarly violent crash.

Lastly what i noticed was a tendency the bikes had after falling, to "hook" into something on the tarmac and flip 2m into the air. So, functionality is fine, but I'm noticing numerous physics bugs.
Title: Re: Beta 5 Bugs.
Post by: capeta on July 10, 2014, 05:13:11 PM
Quote from: Ian on June 26, 2014, 12:36:05 PM
Quote from: janaucarre on June 26, 2014, 10:46:10 AM
i have the same issue than Ian, whe i use the rear brake and attempt to downshift, sometimes it doesn't works. That happens with the 990 and the 500.
If you are not using a button for your brakes go to the calibration page and adjust the gain to 50% for the rear brake
Thx for the tip!
Title: Re: Beta 5 Bugs.
Post by: yoshimura on September 11, 2014, 11:32:40 AM
On the Vallelunga track angle (15) Tarantino, bicycles, lost the avant.gp 1000,600,500..., low-speed.
Title: Re: Beta 5 Bugs.
Post by: yoshimura on September 16, 2014, 09:49:10 AM
Loss of forward amplified with new physics, 600 and 250, at low speed, and the delivery of gauze curve. :-\
Title: Re: Beta 5 Bugs.
Post by: FastFreddy on September 16, 2014, 10:11:15 AM
Quote from: yoshimura on September 11, 2014, 11:32:40 AM
On the Vallelunga track angle (15) Tarantino, bicycles, lost the avant.gp 1000,600,500..., low-speed.

(http://media1.giphy.com/media/NZhO1SEuFmhj2/giphy.gif)

surely Beta5 have some issue, but do not comes to your mind That is maybe the track fault ??  Not-Official tracks have bumps (especially Vallelunga!!!) and the bike lose the front , it also happens in real life!
Title: Re: Beta 5 Bugs.
Post by: matty0l215 on September 16, 2014, 10:23:50 AM
Quote from: yoshimura on September 16, 2014, 09:49:10 AM
Loss of forward amplified with new physics, 600 and 250, at low speed, and the delivery of gauze curve. :-\

This is a known issue and I think Piboso has found the issue
Title: Re: Beta 5 Bugs.
Post by: yoshimura on September 16, 2014, 10:32:02 AM
Quote from: matty0l215 on September 16, 2014, 10:23:50 AM
Quote from: yoshimura on September 16, 2014, 09:49:10 AM
Loss of forward amplified with new physics, 600 and 250, at low speed, and the delivery of gauze curve. :-\

This is a known issue and I think Piboso has found the issue


in real life as it happens yes, on several tracks, also lost avant.l front wheel takes a 10 degree angle, it breaks on the angle.
Title: Re: Beta 5 Bugs.
Post by: matty0l215 on September 16, 2014, 10:34:01 AM
Quote from: yoshimura on September 16, 2014, 10:32:02 AM
Quote from: matty0l215 on September 16, 2014, 10:23:50 AM
Quote from: yoshimura on September 16, 2014, 09:49:10 AM
Loss of forward amplified with new physics, 600 and 250, at low speed, and the delivery of gauze curve. :-\

This is a known issue and I think Piboso has found the issue


in real life as it happens yes, on several tracks, also lost avant.l front wheel takes a 10 degree angle, it breaks on the angle.
Does the front wheel wobble before the bike falls?
Title: Re: Beta 5 Bugs.
Post by: FastFreddy on September 16, 2014, 10:40:53 AM
Quote from: yoshimura on September 16, 2014, 10:32:02 AM
Quote from: matty0l215 on September 16, 2014, 10:23:50 AM
Quote from: yoshimura on September 16, 2014, 09:49:10 AM
Loss of forward amplified with new physics, 600 and 250, at low speed, and the delivery of gauze curve. :-\

This is a known issue and I think Piboso has found the issue


in real life as it happens yes, on several tracks, also lost avant.l front wheel takes a 10 degree angle, it breaks on the angle.

10°?  :o :o If you fall with 10 degrees of lean is because you brakes with too much force in the wrong part of the corner/lean. Maybe you need more practice  ::)
Title: Re: Beta 5 Bugs.
Post by: yoshimura on September 16, 2014, 10:55:40 AM
not falter, the broken wheel on the corner.
Title: Re: Beta 5 Bugs.
Post by: yoshimura on September 16, 2014, 11:06:11 AM
I will explain in French, my English is bad sorry,

Avec un  125,250,600...quand je prends de l angle dans un virage serré,ou simplement dans une courbe rapide,avec un filet de gaz,l avant décroche,la roue avant prend un angle de 10 degrés,l avant ce brise au ralenti je vois que la fourche ne travaille pas,une force s oppose a la rigidité du cadre.
Title: Re: Beta 5 Bugs.
Post by: yoshimura on September 16, 2014, 11:08:22 AM
Quote from: matty0l215 on September 16, 2014, 10:23:50 AM
Quote from: yoshimura on September 16, 2014, 09:49:10 AM
Loss of forward amplified with new physics, 600 and 250, at low speed, and the delivery of gauze curve. :-\

This is a known issue and I think Piboso has found the issue

ok thanks
Title: Re: Beta 5 Bugs.
Post by: FastFreddy on September 16, 2014, 11:12:06 AM
Quote from: yoshimura on September 16, 2014, 11:06:11 AM
I will explain in French, my English is bad sorry,

Avec un  125,250,600...quand je prends de l angle dans un virage serré,ou simplement dans une courbe rapide,avec un filet de gaz,l avant décroche,la roue avant prend un angle de 10 degrés,l avant ce brise au ralenti je vois que la fourche ne travaille pas,une force s oppose a la rigidité du cadre.

I do not think it's a bug, however it does not happen to all. AnywayGpbikes Beta6 gp  introduces the torsion of the frame.
Title: Re: Beta 5 Bugs.
Post by: HornetMaX on September 16, 2014, 11:23:27 AM
Quote from: yoshimura on September 16, 2014, 11:06:11 AM
une force s oppose a la rigidité du cadre.
The above does not make any sense, in french, english or whatever.

MaX.
Title: Re: Beta 5 Bugs.
Post by: yoshimura on September 16, 2014, 11:41:47 AM
Quote from: HornetMaX on September 16, 2014, 11:23:27 AM
Quote from: yoshimura on September 16, 2014, 11:06:11 AM
une force s oppose a la rigidité du cadre.
The above does not make any sense, in french, english or whatever.

MaX.

je vais essayer d expliquer mon ressenti,

dans la réalité,tu peux facilement dans la limite de l'adhérence ,basculer droite gauche en moto sans qu une force ne te fasse perdre l avant comme je l es décris l avant ce brise sans prévenir sans possibilité de le rattraper,au ralenti cela est tres nette.Comme si un coup violent etait donné a la jante sur l angle, le bras oscillant joue un grand role aussi.