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Here is the update we made for Rodney&Camillo's Kawasaki KX450f.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/agk386ngjzrtg9j/kx450f.rar?dl=0

We hope you like it, there is a server open so you can test it.
If you have any suggestions they are welcome (There will be, it's our first time on this Mod world)

Thanks to:
Rondey&Camillo- Mod's creator
Adalgood, Albertukis Loko and Loopateli- Update

PLEASE DELETE YOUR OLDER BIKE FOLDER

Older track folder??

The previous mod folder ?

Bike bike folder hahaha

Thank you! lol

Thx Loopa i try now!  ;D

If you want a Bike Stand in the Showroom add this to your Configuration Settings File.
This is the file inside the bike folder with the gear next to it.
This file can best be opened with Notepad.


[showroom]
frontsusp_length = 0.08
rearsusp_rot = -2
stand = default

BTW nice update  ;)

(http://i.imgur.com/iQ6jsYC.jpg)

Works quite well on Zuera, better than in GP Bikes :))

Just don't put it in 3rd person, it looks a little ridiculous  :P

Gonna try it. Thank you guys :)

Quote from: Docfumi on May 25, 2015, 07:06:55 PM
If you want a Bike Stand in the Showroom add this to your Configuration Settings File.
This is the file inside the bike folder with the gear next to it.
This file can best be opened with Notepad.


[showroom]
frontsusp_length = 0.08
rearsusp_rot = -2
stand = default

BTW nice update  ;)

Hey thanks docfumi! I was just about to ask it :)

Quote from: matty0l215 on May 25, 2015, 07:33:59 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/iQ6jsYC.jpg)

Works quite well on Zuera, better than in GP Bikes :))

Just don't put it in 3rd person, it looks a little ridiculous  :P

Wow thats nice! No changes needed??

Nope, just copy and paste (well i did and it worked a treat) ;D

yes it works and you need to change the three rider settings (mass and view...) to these of the 250 standard bike. then it looks good in mxb.

just did a half lap ;)

€: had a core with a modified setup. when i just go to the track othout any changes in setup it works.

Quote from: JJS209 on May 25, 2015, 08:15:37 PM
yes it works and you need to change the three rider settings (mass and view...) to these of the 250 standard bike. then it looks good in mxb.

just did a half lap ;)

€: had a core with a modified setup. when i just go to the track othout any changes in setup it works.

You mean a new set up or a past version saved set up?

Quote from: LOOPATELI on May 25, 2015, 09:17:24 PM

Quote from: JJS209 on May 25, 2015, 08:15:37 PM
yes it works and you need to change the three rider settings (mass and view...) to these of the 250 standard bike. then it looks good in mxb.

just did a half lap ;)

€: had a core with a modified setup. when i just go to the track othout any changes in setup it works.

You mean a new set up or a past version saved set up?

I did use a past setup for my first time round and the bike was nearly unrideable, with the default setup the bike was fine, old setups might be beyond current setting limitations.

i think i changed the wrong thing. now it themes to work with this one:

Looks nice, wanted to give it a blast in MXB but I get:

'ODE INTERNAL ERROR 1

assertion "bNormalizationResult" failed in ../../include\ode/odemath.h:326'

i just copyed zuera and the kx450f bikefolder in bikes/tracks.

Quotei just copyed zuera and the kx450f bikefolder in bikes/tracks.

in GPB or MXB?

Impressions:
Tested the KXf yesterday.
Not bad but i have a few issues:
- after about 4-5 laps the soft tyres are getting really slippery , had many front losses.
- after crash and rejoining on track it is sometimes really hard to start....lean input forces the bike to crash again, had to be very gently on the steer input to get a good going.
- the curbs in zuera are way to slippery...it forces an direct crash driving above them. (don´t know if it´s mainly caused by track or by bike)
- the rear sliding ability at acceleration is less then "real" or in other words a slide is hard to control
- i don´t see a reason for the rear sprocket only availabe in two step sizes (44,46,48,..). Why don´t use odd-numbered sizes?

These are the first impression after 15 laps.  ;D
And i´m 8 seconds slower than Davide.....  ??? ;D (just joking)

Quote from: C21 on May 26, 2015, 06:09:40 AM

Quotei just copyed zuera and the kx450f bikefolder in bikes/tracks.

in GPB or MXB?

Copy zuera from GP Bikes to MX Bikes

Only tried very quickly, was a bit surprised by how much it can lean ... almost 60deg !

MaX.

try out the A-7000 road ;)

https://www.youtube.com/v/nwjsQA0n9qs

i try out different bitrates and that was not a good choice ;)

e: i noticed that i did not use the sit function.
when its possible to modify riding styles it would be nice when the rider puts out the foot down in turns when he stands on the bike and when he sits on it then he would drag the knee down in turns.

QuoteWe hope you like it, there is a server open so you can test it.
If you have any suggestions they are welcome (There will be, it's our first time on this Mod world)

@JJ
Sorry i don´t want to upset you but your feedback "converting" the KXf and the track to MXB is off-topic isn´t it ?
The KXf was developed for GPB and i think it should be tested in GPB only to get a proper feedback of the development.  ;)

Quote from: C21 on May 26, 2015, 06:34:20 AM
Impressions:
Tested the KXf yesterday.
Not bad but i have a few issues:
- after about 4-5 laps the soft tyres are getting really slippery , had many front losses.
- after crash and rejoining on track it is sometimes really hard to start....lean input forces the bike to crash again, had to be very gently on the steer input to get a good going.
- the curbs in zuera are way to slippery...it forces an direct crash driving above them. (don´t know if it´s mainly caused by track or by bike)
- the rear sliding ability at acceleration is less then "real" or in other words a slide is hard to control
- i don´t see a reason for the rear sprocket only availabe in two step sizes (44,46,48,..). Why don´t use odd-numbered sizes?

These are the first impression after 15 laps.  ;D
And i´m 8 seconds slower than Davide.....  ??? ;D (just joking)

Yes there is a problem with the front soft tyre it warms up too much and you loose the front, it depends also on the track if you push too much the front or not. It will be fixed in the next update.
Starts in gpbikes are quite hard. In this bike looks even harder but is so difficult to smooth this behavior. About curbs is because zuera, in other tracks they are ok

With the sprockets you mean why not put steps of one instead of two??

Quote from: HornetMaX on May 26, 2015, 07:52:07 AM
Only tried very quickly, was a bit surprised by how much it can lean ... almost 60deg !

MaX.

If Marquez takes this bike he'd reach 70 deegres for sure haha.

Quote from: C21 on May 26, 2015, 10:20:04 AM

QuoteWe hope you like it, there is a server open so you can test it.
If you have any suggestions they are welcome (There will be, it's our first time on this Mod world)

@JJ
Sorry i don´t want to upset you but your feedback "converting" the KXf and the track to MXB is off-topic isn´t it ?
The KXf was developed for GPB and i think it should be tested in GPB only to get a proper feedback of the development.  ;)

next time i will open a new thread for the video and the .geom file.  :o

Quote from: JJS209 on May 26, 2015, 08:51:25 AM
try out the A-7000 road ;)

https://www.youtube.com/v/nwjsQA0n9qs

i try out different bitrates and that was not a good choice ;)

e: i noticed that i did not use the sit function.
when its possible to modify riding styles it would be nice when the rider puts out the foot down in turns when he stands on the bike and when he sits on it then he would drag the knee down in turns.

Looks great! Unfortunately I havent purchase MXB yet to try it out

QuoteWith the sprockets you mean why not put steps of one instead of two??

Yes sir  ;D

QuoteYes there is a problem with the front soft tyre it warms up too much and you loose the front

Rework data and the problem should be gone  ;)

Not sure why my last reply was deleted. Tried the 450 this morning and it feels loads better than before. Thanks to those that took over the project. I had no idea doing a few corrections to it in order to work in the new beta would lead to this.  ;)

possibility of an update beta 7? tks.

Hello to everybody,

I give you one updated of her(it) kx450f.

https://mega.nz/#F!pFBkWTyI!EHEdSDbKmjAT1I_p6uuV1Q

https://www.youtube.com/v/e0ebWjYs4rU

Thanks yan for the update!

Question: Anyone has a template (or a skin) for this bike?

Or the original 3D model, for make a template  :-\

Quote from: Blackheart on December 27, 2015, 05:36:28 PM
Question: Anyone has a template (or a skin) for this bike?

Or the original 3D model, for make a template  :-\

Apparently no , i already asked Camillo but he said he hasn't

Quote from: guigui404 on December 28, 2015, 11:46:32 AM
Apparently no , i already asked Camillo but he said he hasn't

Too bad  :(  now it is very fun to ride!

Would u change the bike folder name so that it fits the bikemod rules?
Otherwise it will not be included in the next bm.

I've made a version if you are happy for me to use it in the bike MOD?

You will want to update your version as well if you would like to use it :)

HERE (https://www.dropbox.com/s/0xgq01dsl4t3lnn/Supermoto_Kawasaki_KX450F_V0.9.7z?dl=0)

I think there is no problem from both parts (yan and me) to change the name so it can be implemented in the biked.

About the templates and skins. Is there any way to rip the bike so we can take out the texture of the skin? I have no idea if it is possible and how to do it

Quote from: LOOPATELI on December 29, 2015, 12:44:33 AM
About the templates and skins. Is there any way to rip the bike so we can take out the texture of the skin? I have no idea if it is possible and how to do it

I think that the problem is the OpenGL, if I remember correctly the programs do not work well with this  ???

Tomorrow I try something, if someone more experienced than me want to try...

After a quick test, this is the result:

(http://s28.postimg.org/m1ibofgmh/3dsmax_29_12_2015_21_59_18_353.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/m1ibofgmh/)

But I do not understand why I only see some textures on the model ...  :o

EDIT: Obviously the rip is just to try to create a template for the bike livery  :P

Making a template isn't the more difficult part. The original model is quite easy to find, it take about 15 minutes to create a beautiful template in 3ds max once you get the model.

The thing is to know what's the name has been used at model export. Usually it's "livery", but if it's not a standard name, it can be impossible to skin a bike without re-exporting the 3D. I thing the first thing to do is to verify the name by trying with a blank texture before anything else. I haven't GPB in my computer right know so I can't test by myself  :-X

Quote from: RiccoChicco on December 29, 2015, 03:01:56 PM
Making a template isn't the more difficult part. The original model is quite easy to find, it take about 15 minutes to create a beautiful template in 3ds max once you get the model.

The thing is to know what's the name has been used at model export. Usually it's "livery", but if it's not a standard name, it can be impossible to skin a bike without re-exporting the 3D. I thing the first thing to do is to verify the name by trying with a blank texture before anything else. I haven't GPB in my computer right know so I can't test by myself  :-X

Thx Ricco! If when u have time can u try is better, I'm pretty donkey here  ;D

If I understand what you mean, I tried to make a texture nominated livery, but some parts (seat and 1 exhaust) are not white  :-[

(http://s4.postimg.org/53m6gce49/core_29_12_2015_23_17_07_634.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/53m6gce49/)

It's a good start, even if I'm more concerned by the seat  ;D Now all you have to do is to find all the names you can imagine for both exhaust and seat, which can be veeeeeeeeery long  :(

If you find everything, I'l take a look to make the template needed.

Quote from: RiccoChicco on December 29, 2015, 03:33:58 PM
It's a good start, even if I'm more concerned by the seat  ;D Now all you have to do is to find all the names you can imagine for both exhaust and seat, which can be veeeeeeeeery long  :(

If you find everything, I'l take a look to make the template needed.

OMG  ;D ;D ;D

it is... seat

(http://s23.postimg.org/h0asonhzr/core_30_12_2015_00_06_16_771.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/h0asonhzr/)

 ;D ;D ;D

If I found time tonight, a template will be available  :)

Great!  ;D

I think the biggest problem I've noticed, even when it first released was the shade seems to be reverse. The shadow is coming from the top of the bike no matter where the light source is.

Really bugs me. lol

If you have found the 3d model, I'd re-export 3d models properly, because if you see the front wheel,sup & steer, is the worst thing I've ever seen on GPB. The bad thing is that if we change that the bikes behavior is gonna change completely 

The model in my 3ds max shots is rip directly from gpbikes with 3Dvia Printscreen. 

Quote from: LOOPATELI on December 29, 2015, 07:09:01 PM
If you have found the 3d model, I'd re-export 3d models properly, because if you see the front wheel,sup & steer, is the worst thing I've ever seen on GPB. The bad thing is that if we change that the bikes behavior is gonna change completely

If you really want to reexport something, I have a better bike to make an SM in GPB. I can export it tonight, but it will not be a supported model since I don't think taking too much time on supermoto is useful since MXB will have it very very soon.

(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/686864screen001.png)

I've also a TM exporter to in MxBikes, but as you say it's better to wait to the oficial SM :D

Quote from: RiccoChicco on December 29, 2015, 08:01:35 PMIf you really want to reexport something, I have a better bike to make an SM in GPB. I can export it tonight, but it will not be a supported model since I don't think taking too much time on supermoto is useful since MXB will have it very very soon.

(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/686864screen001.png)

As I've said before, why not a release for both? GPB has some great road physics and MXB is getting really close (at least it looks like it from WIP threads) to a new beta release soon. Having the same bike spread over a few sims would not only bring more content to both sims, but as well, expose more people to supermoto in general. Just a suggestion, that releasing it for both would really open up the style of riding as well, maybe it would push Piboso a little bit further in the direction of allowing the modders to make riding styles that suit certain eras and certain types of bikes.  ;)

And... it seems the MX Bikes community isn't half as excited as GP Bikes community when it comes to a supermoto. I for one am super excited about any and all releases pertaining to dirtbikes with road tires, but it seems that the dirt community primarily likes the knobbie tires.  ;D

I'mbpretty sure that thoose in GPB that haven't got yet MXB they will purchase it when the sm comes out. Also, it is dificult to develop a good physics for one sim it is gonna be even more dificult if that physics havento fit on both sims. Imaginenyou only have GPB and the bike is not going as good as it could. You dont care about how is the bike going in mxb you simply want it to be perfect in gpb

Quote from: grimm on December 30, 2015, 09:02:17 AM
And... it seems the MX Bikes community isn't half as excited as GP Bikes community when it comes to a supermoto. I for one am super excited about any and all releases pertaining to dirtbikes with road tires, but it seems that the dirt community primarily likes the knobbie tires.  ;D

Speaking from the MXB side of things I think the big difference is road bikes / offroad bikes. I know they are motocross bikes but 'supermoto' is really more of a road bike thing.. I guess if you had a full on motocross track that had a short section of road track it probably wouldn't excite you as much as a full on race track with a short section of offroad.. I don't know just a guess  :D

Either way I'm super excited for supermoto.. Have some great ideas for tracks already and can't wait to get stuck in!  8)

Cool, SM racing online should be mega!  ;D  8) would be nice to have proper SM in GPB too but it has to be better in MXB with the virtual rider style, air physics etc..

Looking forward to seeing what track u come up with fatcontroller  ;D 8)

Quote from: TheFatController on December 30, 2015, 08:03:32 PMSpeaking from the MXB side of things I think the big difference is road bikes / offroad bikes. I know they are motocross bikes but 'supermoto' is really more of a road bike thing.. I guess if you had a full on motocross track that had a short section of road track it probably wouldn't excite you as much as a full on race track with a short section of offroad.. I don't know just a guess  :D

Either way I'm super excited for supermoto.. Have some great ideas for tracks already and can't wait to get stuck in!  8)

I'm a street rider so yeah, you got me pegged, it's all about minimal dirty and maximum road racing when I'm on a supermoto.  ;D


All about that SM fun, from GasGas wheels/suspension on a DRZ400S to the "four stroke revolution" 98/99 YZ400F with Suzuki mags from the early 90's, I'm truly all about getting down and dirty on some twisty roads and making the big boys on the inline fours wish they had a supermoto too.  8)

(http://i645.photobucket.com/albums/uu175/RatFighter/DRZ/DeerZee_zps573cf400.jpg) (http://s645.photobucket.com/user/RatFighter/media/DRZ/DeerZee_zps573cf400.jpg.html)

(http://i645.photobucket.com/albums/uu175/RatFighter/YZ400F/PA050003.jpg) (http://s645.photobucket.com/user/RatFighter/media/YZ400F/PA050003.jpg.html)

(http://i645.photobucket.com/albums/uu175/RatFighter/YZ400F/20150912_123013_zpsdwmepent.jpg) (http://s645.photobucket.com/user/RatFighter/media/YZ400F/20150912_123013_zpsdwmepent.jpg.html)


Sometimes I split the difference and ride a true dual sport. (punched out high compression XR with a hot cam and "carb mod"; a friends bike he lets me borrow from time to time over the years)

(http://i645.photobucket.com/albums/uu175/RatFighter/20140522_172209_zpsvu0iwwss.jpg) (http://s645.photobucket.com/user/RatFighter/media/20140522_172209_zpsvu0iwwss.jpg.html)


But mostly I just ride my little XR100 because two strokes and air time are far behind me. Just can't ride MX, another wreck may be the last one, broke too much and demolished too much of my spine to be able to do the rag-doll roll anymore. I'll leave that madness up to the talented and keep my supermoto's on the asphalt and in unicycle mode. :)

(http://i645.photobucket.com/albums/uu175/RatFighter/vlcsnap-2014-07-30-19h05m05s176_zpsad6cea5a.png) (http://s645.photobucket.com/user/RatFighter/media/vlcsnap-2014-07-30-19h05m05s176_zpsad6cea5a.png.html)

Very nice grimm, love the look of that DRZ!

Quote from: TheFatController on December 31, 2015, 03:39:51 PM
Very nice grimm, love the look of that DRZ!

Thanks!


(on topic of Supermoto's, off topic of the release for GPB)

I was orignally developing the parts for the "hooligan mod" of GS500E mag wheels on it when I just happened across a setup on ebay for an affordable price, it utilized GasGas FSE400SM wheels, Brembo brakes, and USD forks with billet triple clamps (adjustable lock stops too), and having that seemed more logical for the stuff I was doing so I ordered it, bolted it up, bought a SM fender for the front, and rode a few years on it like that. Was alot of fun, and even the DRZ400SM guys were asking what my setup was due to how wildly exotic it looked compared to the standard DRZ. The rolled lip on the wheels and the massive 320mm Brembo brake setup out front gave it a nasty appearance. I really, really liked that bike, all except the weight of it. Modern MX'ers are all aluminum and rather feather light compared to even my YZ (way lighter than the DRZ). I used to joke I should have just bought a KLR or a XR650L if I wanted to ride a pig with 17's. lol :D

(http://i645.photobucket.com/albums/uu175/RatFighter/DRZ/P8080002_zps080570a3.jpg) (http://s645.photobucket.com/user/RatFighter/media/DRZ/P8080002_zps080570a3.jpg.html)

Deer-Zee with "The Smoker" ('86 KDX200 w/ 2012 CBR250R wheels, modern KDX forks, Brembo rear brake adapted to a modified KDX swingarm) out for a back road burn.

(http://i645.photobucket.com/albums/uu175/RatFighter/0922131716_zps6e4d2c32.jpg) (http://s645.photobucket.com/user/RatFighter/media/0922131716_zps6e4d2c32.jpg.html)

With the airbox trimmed out, a combination of 3 different "off the shelf" jet kits (I tune carbs and exhaust, guru of sorts with them  ;) ) and a custom exhaust of my spec, with some uprated clutch springs it would bring them up in 3rd gear with a little clutch action, made for some NASTY corner exits. :D

(http://i645.photobucket.com/albums/uu175/RatFighter/vlcsnap-2013-09-24-08h56m36s147_zps08c6990c.png) (http://s645.photobucket.com/user/RatFighter/media/vlcsnap-2013-09-24-08h56m36s147_zps08c6990c.png.html)





Sorry for the thread jack, but it's supermoto related right? I've been one of the biggest proponents of this KXF surviving the beta changes (even adjusted things and re-released it with permission quite some time ago).  ;)

hi to all,
an update of the KX450F

https://mega.nz/#!pEx1QZiQ!vd4K5FOtw51f5qX-Tsz3MJmkUPnlSvYh_1NdRz97zXw

Thank you very much Yan. Can you give us the changelog?  :)

Can someone tell me how to add this to my bikes?

Quote from: Robert223 on January 24, 2016, 11:47:50 PM
Can someone tell me how to add this to my bikes?

Firstly we're presuming you have purchased GPBikes? Only default bikes work with the demo.  ;)

Extract the downloaded bike zip file and then place the extracted bike folder into your "C:\Program Files\GP Bikes\gpbikes\bikes" folder(if you can't see it then create it), just make sure when you extract the bike zip that you don't extract a folder within a folder or the bike won't show-up in the bike selection menu. In other words, when you extract the bike files with your zip application don't select "Extract to", select "Extract here".

You should be good to go.  ;D

If you have any problems then post a picture(or text post) of your GPBikes install folder hierarchy and install address on your system. 

You really shouldn't have any problems if you read this GPBikes Guide kindly created by Max here on the forum: http://forum.piboso.com/index.php?topic=431.0 (http://forum.piboso.com/index.php?topic=431.0)

Hawk.
PS: If you are using a 32 bit system and install then obviously you will have your GPBikes installed in your "Program Files(x86)" folder, and not "Program Files" folder as stated above.  ;)

thanks hawk

and thanks to the creator of the supermoto!! I love this game and love this mod.
been disabled since 2 years from an antibiotic which destroyed my tendons and because of that I can't ride supermoto anymore  :'( was an athlete and also hobby supermoto racer before and now crippled at 27 y o

THIS game and especially THIS mod are the first good things happening to me since. thanks thanks thanks again guys and sorry for the personal shit
back to keeping the front wheel clean  ;)

Quote from: Robert223 on January 25, 2016, 12:27:23 AM
thanks hawk

and thanks to the creator of the supermoto!! I love this game and love this mod.
been disabled since 2 years from an antibiotic which destroyed my tendons and because of that I can't ride supermoto anymore  :'( was an athlete and also hobby supermoto racer before and now crippled at 27 y o

THIS game and especially THIS mod are the first good things happening to me since. thanks thanks thanks again guys and sorry for the personal shit
back to keeping the front wheel clean  ;)

Glad to help mate.... and it's good to see your enthusiasm for GPBikes, it's a great sim with a great community.  ;D

Hope to see you on track and joining events soon. The soon to be released beta 8 will hopefully see some major online race events starting again. We're all just awaiting the arrival of beta 8.  ;D 8)

Hawk.

Hi Robert great to see you joined us all here.

When you send the next email let me know if you need custom control design to make it easier for you.

Have fun bro.

DD

Hi guys. Will you be updating this beauty for beta 8? Had so much fun with it on the kart tracks.

Cheers,

/David "Gonzo" Boda #46

Can we get a beta9 update for the bike? also, when i try to use it and go to the test track the game crashes for some odd reason, cant figure it out... (im new here :b )

NO SM bikes work in beta 9 that is why m8. Go use MX Bikes

DD

Quote from: doubledragoncc on November 05, 2016, 01:11:11 AM
NO SM bikes work in beta 9 that is why m8. Go use MX Bikes

DD

Welp, guess im fucked, i dont have MX bikes... im guessing GP bikes license doesnt give you access to MX bikes.. and im not buying the mx license XD