hi folks :)
hope this is the right section to ask about this - i just d/l'd the Syncback software and profile for keeping my GPB bikes up to date (if i understand it correctly to do this), had to edit it slightly as my game is not inside Program Files, but C:/Games/GPB.
got it from this thread - http://forum.piboso.com/index.php?topic=1449.msg19952#msg19952
seems to have worked - i see that some files are currently being deleted, so i hope it's doing what it should.
my main concern atm is this - can i still run the game while this is happening?
my guess is not, but thought i'd just ask first to make sure.
thanks in advance for any advice 8)
cheers
CapeDoc
Probably best not to unless you know you are using a bike, track and paints that have already passed the run. No harm in trying it though.
I would seriously remove the time stamp comparison setting as well, the FTP version will often have a different timestamp so you end up deleting /re-adding stuff that doesn't need it (probably what you are seeing now if you had the Mega/DB load. This is unlikely to be a problem for you though after the first run, as you aren't syncing servers together or using it as a comparison tool but you never know and it might trip you up down the line on a black day when you are mis-matching hard and fast.
thanks mate :D
pardon my ignorance, but where do i find the time stamp setting you refer to?
Advanced Profile options / Compare options / Date and Time - Tick Ignore file date and time changes.
It aint needed anyway you are more interested in the file contents than a poxy timestamp.
hmmm.... i don't seem to have the advanced options for that. i'm on the Syncbackfree v7.3.2.9 version, do i need the upgraded version for those options?
No free is enough.
Doubleclick your profile and edit it you might see it then. If not don't worry about it come back if you have syncing/mismatch/comparison errors in the future. Just file this discussion at the back of your mind in the fault-finding section lol.
okay, i got to edit -compare options - date and time, and here the only box that is checked is 'ignore file date & time changes that are because of daylight savings time.
not sure if this is the right place, but i'll just do as you said, and file this away for future reference if i have any issues.
cheers Nick 8)
yes right place - 3 or 4 boxes up you need to tick it :)
Quote from: Napalm Nick on June 16, 2015, 01:40:53 PM
I would seriously remove the time stamp comparison setting as well, the FTP version will often have a different timestamp so you end up deleting /re-adding stuff that doesn't need it
Well, normally the ftp timestamps change only when a bike is re-uploaded to the ftp server, so using the timestamp is the most efficient way of syncing (comparing timestamps is way faster than comparing content). The 1st time (if you had bikes from Mega) it will download everything, but from then on you should be good.
MaX.
Quote from: Napalm Nick on June 16, 2015, 01:40:53 PM
....the FTP version will often have a different timestamp so you end up deleting /re-adding stuff that doesn't need it (probably what you are seeing now if you had the Mega/DB load). This is unlikely to be a problem for you though after the first run, .....
There's an echo in here lol . My suggestion was to save future pain.
Anyway with B7 Data Mis-match info life will be free of these endless problems cos I'm a believer (not a Beleiber).
i believe! 8)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XfuBREMXxts
so, what's the best option for me, then - should i check it or not? i'm alwys happy to weigh up the pros and cons, lol ;D
Quote from: Napalm Nick on June 16, 2015, 05:52:03 PM
Quote from: Napalm Nick on June 16, 2015, 01:40:53 PM
....the FTP version will often have a different timestamp so you end up deleting /re-adding stuff that doesn't need it (probably what you are seeing now if you had the Mega/DB load). This is unlikely to be a problem for you though after the first run, .....
There's an echo in here lol . My suggestion was to save future pain.
But if he turn it off he doesn't save on future pain no ? He has immediate pain but for future it should be good.
BTW, if the file timestamps were not messed up when up/downloading to/from the ftp server, the whole problem would not be there.
Anyway :)
Quote from: TheCapeDoctor on June 16, 2015, 07:46:43 PM
so, what's the best option for me, then - should i check it or not? i'm alwys happy to weigh up the pros and cons, lol ;D
MaX advice: keep it. 1st time you sync it will (maybe) re-download everything, but then you should be good.
MaX.
Jaheeeez! Just spent ages replying to this then my tablet battery died. :( start over short version...
I didn't really understand the first line of your response Max. Only assuming you don't agree based on the 'Max advice: keep it' meaning keep it un-ticked? If you mean ticked then we are agreeing lol.
In a nutshell it was just a simple suggestion that wouldn't cause any hassle whatsoever to him other than finding the tick box ::) but could save a lot of hassle in the future (he said in first post he had already started the sync so setting time stamp off later would cause no more initial pain). As far as I have seen future sync times aren't significantly (if at all) affected either, even if it is more scan efficient.
You know, future problems like database differences while trying to host an open server, (like that ever happens) etc. Help I would of been grateful for at this stage. (I've got more default sync profile improvement suggestions too but don't want to bore anyone). It was a suggestion based on days of ass chasing comparison testing (more than once), that I thought was helpful to save him painful time wasted experiences. A quick possibly helpful suggestion has been deconstructed !
But yeh, if all hope is with b7 mis-match info, (and I hope it is) leave it un-ticked, problems can always be sorted out later by some experienced member after a bit more ass chasing. Ticking the box would be more helpful tho. Besides I don't know Capes masochistic tendencies - leaving it un-ticked might lead to future delightful pain.
Quote from: Napalm Nick on June 16, 2015, 09:52:08 PM
I didn't really understand the first line of your response Max. Only assuming you don't agree based on the 'Max advice: keep it' meaning keep it un-ticked? If you mean ticked then we are agreeing lol.
Keep it ticked.
So we agree. I guess. Right ? :)
MaX.
hahaha OMG yes, now I wish I'd let the first version just be lost to the ether with battery failure, and gone to bed.
Still maybe Capeman appreciated the reasoning explanation. ;)
indeed, much appreciated, guys.
i do have a few more minor issues concerning bike paints, still wondering whether to open a separate thread or continue in this one.
i'll probably ask here, as it seems related to syncback, but first some supper and a bit of telly tonight ;)
okay, so i've been monitoring this sync option since yesterday, and i'm not sure i like what it's doing.
perhaps there's settings i should change, though i'm not sure which.
i've found that it keeps syncing to the ftp, even though i stopped it - seems like it just automatically kicks back in every so often. so i could stop it, start playing GPB, then go back after a while to find it's busy checking/deleting stuff - how often must it do this? i mean, first time out, didn't it sort everything as it should?
if so, why does it continue doing checks/deletions all the time.
also, my understanding is that it will remove any bikes/paints which are not part of the bike mod - and here, for example, the rgv 500 93, the bike is still there, but it keeps deleting the skins.
i add the skins back in, then later it's deleted them again.... >:(
so, seems the best option is not to run it at all, but only to run it on the one or two occasions per month that the bike mod is updated.
and it really does upset my apple-cart when i've added in lots of extra cool skins, only to have them deleted. i know it warns of this, and of course i back up my skins, but why doesn't it just focus on the bikes, and ignore the skins? surely that would make more sense.....?
atm i keep stopping the profile from running, only to find a little while later it's busy doing stuff again....
Quote from: TheCapeDoctor on June 18, 2015, 09:44:51 AM
okay, so i've been monitoring this sync option since yesterday, and i'm not sure i like what it's doing.
perhaps there's settings i should change, though i'm not sure which.
i've found that it keeps syncing to the ftp, even though i stopped it - seems like it just automatically kicks back in every so often. so i could stop it, start playing GPB, then go back after a while to find it's busy checking/deleting stuff - how often must it do this? i mean, first time out, didn't it sort everything as it should?
if so, why does it continue doing checks/deletions all the time.
also, my understanding is that it will remove any bikes/paints which are not part of the bike mod - and here, for example, the rgv 500 93, the bike is still there, but it keeps deleting the skins.
i add the skins back in, then later it's deleted them again.... >:(
so, seems the best option is not to run it at all, but only to run it on the one or two occasions per month that the bike mod is updated.
and it really does upset my apple-cart when i've added in lots of extra cool skins, only to have them deleted. i know it warns of this, and of course i back up my skins, but why doesn't it just focus on the bikes, and ignore the skins? surely that would make more sense.....?
atm i keep stopping the profile from running, only to find a little while later it's busy doing stuff again....
I'm sure there is a setting in options to stop it deleting files from the folders you have synced. Max, Nick or one of the other guys here that use syncback will I'm sure give you advice on how to achieve this as soon as they can, but I update manually(just my thing as I don't trust synciback programmes), so I cannot tell you the exact procedure to accomplish this as I never use it.
It's sounds like it's probably just the "paints" folders that you don't want any files deleting from, which makes sense because the bike folders need to be exactly same as original version being synced or you will get data mismatch. ;)
Hawk.
Syncback is fully configurable. For example, you can decide (you HAVE to decide):
- If a file that exists locally (on your disk) and does not exist in the FTP must be deleted/kept
- If a file that is newer locally than in the ftp must be kept/updated
- etc
Each sync profile has plenty of options and you should looking at all of them before sync'ing the 1st time.
Normally once you've configured the profile properly, you're done for a while.
It's a powerful tool so it can configured to suit to most of the needs. But you have to take the time to understand what it does.
I don't have it here at office, but if it is re-starting after you've stopped it, most likely you've an option to run continuosly/at each startup/at regular intervals.
MaX.
thanks guys :D
lol, sounds like i dived straight in the deep end without testing the waters first... :o
okay, i better take some time and check out all the options first. guess i figured it would just behave as required without further interaction from me - guess again.... i guess :D
cheers, fellas, doing some more investigation today. 8)
The default profile you obtained from the sync back thread is for mirroring the FTP to local files. It is best for servers (no paint files required on server etc). It is also perfect for people who just want the 'official' mod bike database and don't want to delve into local modding, skinning and dabbling.
As a dabbler, I suggest you delete the provided profile and make a new one from scratch tailoring it to your personal hopes and dreams - this also includes scheduling. That way you will get what you want plus you have learnt something about each setting, raising you from idle questioner to syncbak font of knowledge! ;D
well, dabbling is definitely on the cards from me, although you can only really expect skins/paints form my side, as i have plenty experience with aircraft and object skinning from my flight sim time, as for this syncback thing, i'll definitely look into modifying a profile so that it only works with bike folders, and doesn't mess too much with the paints.
i'll leave the other stuff like tracks and 3d in the hands of those more knowledgeable in those particular dark arts. ;)
Hmm like a .pnt exclusion filter? Hehe that's a freebie :D
Quote from: Napalm Nick on June 18, 2015, 01:23:52 PM
That way you will get what you want plus you have learnt something about each setting, raising you from idle questioner to syncbak font of knowledge! ;D
^^ Nicely said. I'm sure I can reuse this in plenty of contexts. Thanks !
Quote from: Napalm Nick on June 18, 2015, 01:45:03 PM
Hmm like a .pnt exclusion filter? Hehe that's a freebie :D
You still want the "default" .pnt of each bike, you wannabe font of knowledge 8)
MaX.