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http://suter500.com/3d/

Ian Lougher's taking the new Suter MMX 500 around the TT this year.  Worth a punt in GP-Bikes?
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Tracks / Re: Isle Of Man
May 19, 2016, 09:44:15 AM
Thank you HornetMax,

Your intervention has induced another member, apparently Blackbeard (he'll know), to back the project so thank you both.  Oh and he's the 50th backer so 8)
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Matty,

It's worth an account to read and make use of the linked resources. There are files at the mediafire link.  I wont post those here, you'll have to AC for them.

I'm C&P the best bits -

Him - "The other 90% is the amount of fine detail that needs to go in. I've been working on this for only about three weeks, so there are still big empty stretches, but it's still more fun than anything else I've tried. It's a pity that a lot of cars have trouble making it round two laps without running out of fuel..."  - [I failed to understand this last sentence on first reading]

Me - "Good luck with your project, I hope I get to drive it sometime. If you're interested, the PiBoSo forum, also linked in my scan thread above, has a couple of members also looking at building..."

Him - "For what it's worth, it's here: Linked to MediaFire"

Me - "Jeez, you've actually built it?!?  Good ****** show man. I'll look at getting AC installed over the weekend and taking a look at it. Cheers.

Mind if I point a few threads over here? Knowing there are active projects that could use this data would go down extremely well right now."

Him - "Be my guest..."
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Tracks / Re: Isle Of Man
May 18, 2016, 11:42:48 PM
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Tracks / Re: Isle Of Man
May 10, 2016, 08:35:45 AM
The files themselves are great thank you, it's just the image displayed on Kickstarter isn't all that big.  - https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1669324602/snaefell-mountain-course-3d-laser-scan/posts/1570793
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Tracks / Re: Isle Of Man
May 10, 2016, 12:08:37 AM
Thanks dd, posted and published. Didn't turn out quite as I expected, so I've ended up linking through db anyway! Such a mission, thanks though gents, much appreciated.
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Tracks / Re: Isle Of Man
May 09, 2016, 07:55:03 PM
I think having the quote on the page would have a greater sheen of respectability than having to click through to my Onedrive account and downloading what is an easily forged document.  Having it on the page, along with the company's contact details leaves backers & KickStarter with an easily followed paper trail.

The trouble I'm having is that a pdf converted at 600dpi doesn't scale well when resizing using MSPaint to add the 3 pages to a single file (the text becomes a blur); 2400dpi doesn't leave me with enough system memory to open even a single page, and so far 1200dpi is coming back as an unsupported format!

Unless one of you guys know how to do this?  I'm using pages 1, 2 & 4.
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Tracks / Re: Isle Of Man
May 09, 2016, 05:45:19 PM
The intention to do this exists, it's just tough trying to get the relevant 3 pdf pages into a readable jpeg.  This will have to wait for tomorrow, as I'm planning on doing some racing tonight.  :P
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Tracks / Re: Isle Of Man
May 09, 2016, 04:06:49 PM
OK folks, it's here at last, in the immortal words of Murray Walker, "Go, Go, Go" - https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1669324602/snaefell-mountain-course-3d-laser-scan

Quote from: HornetMaX
What I still can figure out is how can BigBen have and exclusive and Storris get a laser scan at the same time. Weird ...

Hi Hornet, the licence is only for, and can only be for the TT brand, which is IP belonging to the Isle of Man government.  There is no legal mechanism for anyone, government or otherwise, to restrict access to public domain information (the roads), via a licensing scheme or similar tool.  There is no legal basis for preventing me drawing a map, which is basically what this is.

Quote from: PiBoSo on May 06, 2016, 02:58:37 PM
Ok. So, to recap, not only Bigben got the exclusive license, but now the laser-scanned TT will be converted for all the racing games of the past, present and future?

Hi PiBoSo, with any luck, yes, that is exactly what will happen.  I think we covered this in an earlier post, but the only way this interferes with your plans is to bringing them one step closer.
You are going to face bigger, and at this time insurmountable obstacles with the licensing issues around the TT brand, but that's an entirely separate set of problems unrelated to the track scan.  I hope you can see the benefit to yourselves and ultimately to your customers & community, in having this small piece of the puzzle in place.
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Tracks / Re: Isle Of Man
May 06, 2016, 10:28:06 AM
Kickstarter took some time, but have submitted for review and hopefully it will be all go this end of the week.  It's for the point cloud and reference imaging, approximately 50GB each.  No mesh, and no datahosting as the costs & timeframes were too big for this project.  We will distribute the data via Google/MS Drives & Dropbox, and anywhere else I can get cheap storage.

I know you guys have got your GPB thing going on, but if we could get a team of motivated devs from across sim platforms together to work on the necessaries, this could be the start of something great.
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Tracks / Re: Isle Of Man
April 22, 2016, 04:06:24 PM
If I've understood correctly, the GCP's are to allow an accurate overlay of the geo-reference image, and to correlate the data properly with the rest of the world.   I'm hoping to keep them to a minimum since the track only has to relate to itself.  They will be logging GPS, and setting up a temporary GPS base station, but they need pre-determined reference points to alleviate any potential drift during scanning & processing <<= Accuracy.
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Tracks / Re: Isle Of Man
April 22, 2016, 02:15:22 PM
 :D lol, me neither really.  Just been told that part of the scan preparation requires "client to provide Ground Control Points", essentially ~1cm accurate GPS co-ordinates, every 250-300 metres of the track!

I thought this might allow the .GPX map to be a massaged into better shape, but thinking further, it would probably just make things more difficult.
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Tracks / Re: Isle Of Man
April 22, 2016, 01:13:38 PM
Ok, so, I'm ging to have to creat 200-300 survey grade GPS control points for the scan.

Will they be useful to any of you guys in sorting the .GPX out?
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Tracks / Re: Isle Of Man
April 20, 2016, 08:39:22 PM
Official quote is in. £9,850  8) Waiting for conversion & data storage/webhosting quotes.  I'll be back with links when we launch.
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Tracks / Re: Isle Of Man
April 18, 2016, 01:21:05 PM
Cheers Matty.

Hawk?

The scan will encompass a lot of non-track items.  Within a single IoM mesh file, would there be a single continuous mesh covering everything, or would each thing (house, wall, lampost) need to be meshed independently?

I see the first option as being just as useful as the second, but with a much lower cost and much lower system requirements.
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Tracks / Re: Isle Of Man
April 18, 2016, 11:02:49 AM
Can one or preferably some of you developer types wade in with some advice?

The mesh makers, RFPro.com, have asked, "what parts of the scan, exactly, do you need meshed?"

My instinctive answer is that the entire scan should be meshed as a single unit, but I've no real idea.  From the point cloud, would anything need to be meshed separately, or is 'everything' the right response?