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GP Bikes beta5

Started by PiBoSo, June 20, 2014, 05:13:51 PM

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Stout Johnson

Quote from: Klax75 on June 21, 2014, 08:20:45 PM
Is there a way to change the helmet view head position? It's really driving me insane that it is so much higher then in beta 4... :/

It's not driving me "insane" :D, but I also noticed that onboard view seems to be different in some way. I have exact same values for pitch and tilt - but look seems to be different. Can you explain Piboso?
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Rizzick

Core.EXE is apparently a virus or something and my antivirus "Avast" is blocking it...

janaucarre

rizzick:
As said before, you only have to do an exception in avast with the way to core.exe usually: c:\programfiles(86)\GPBikes\

Rizzick

This is silly, just have to wait till they fix all the problems.. like error when starting up a map with a 1000cc bike or any...and core.exe no responding...

HornetMaX

Quote from: PiBoSo on June 20, 2014, 05:13:59 PM
Please note that bike mods must be updated.
Check for "chain_pitch" in the geom file.
What is this used for ?
And what is the "rear_sprocket = -0.119" ?

Quote from: PiBoSo on June 20, 2014, 05:13:59 PM
Beta4 master server still available on port 10501 ( editing gpbikes.ini ).
That's great ! (just in case, for example for an ongoing champioship)

If you plan to support older version though, the data directory ("documents/Piboso/GP Bikes") should be different from one beta to the other (like "documents/Piboso/GP Bikes beta5").
This would also solve many issues with people not doing clean installs, moving around stuff in the wrong manner etc.

MaX.

Daniel_F

Quote from: HornetMaX on June 21, 2014, 09:35:23 PM
Quote from: Daniel_F on June 21, 2014, 05:01:53 PM
i had similar feeling when i was playing around with tyres and switched the grip from 1 to 10 in the file.. bike behaviour was like is now
You changed grip from 1 to 10 ?!  :o That would be like the bike in Tron ...

MaX.

actualy not it was so much grip everytime i lean the bike it crashed coulnt do more then 10 metter without crash unless it was straight ofc Xd

girlracerTracey

I really would like to test this beta version at Silverstone but if I try to load the track I am immediately faced with a core.ini failure. Is there a simple way to get round this? Can anyone advise me please?

My first blush impression is that I like the fact the bikes seem lighter in overall "feel", braking and direction changes. Particularly the 500s. I like the fact the 500s are a bit more lively and prone to wheelies. Reflecting how the 500s were to ride in real life. But I am getting a few funny sensations with that front end. In a way I liked the planted feel of beta 4 a lot but with the reservations over there being a feeling of too much weight and the bikes feeling a little "cumbersome". The trade-off with beta 5 does seem to be less of a planted feel to the bikes and more nervousness but with the advantage of a more agile feeling in handling and a few more wheelies..

I need to test this more. But as I say my favourite track is Silverstone. One of my least favourite tracks is Phillip Island..

Anyway I can adjust things so I can test at Silverstone?

grT

HornetMaX

Silverstone works fine for me. Did you clean install ?

MaX.

Klax75

I was getting cores even with default bikes. I made new profiles in the documents folder and it fixed the problem.

girlracerTracey

Yes clean install but copied my tracks folder over from my "back-up" beta 4 gpbikes folder?




Klax75

Quote from: girlracerTracey on June 21, 2014, 11:05:57 PM
Yes clean install but copied my tracks folder over from my "back-up" beta 4 gpbikes folder?

But did you change anything in your documents/piboso/gpbikes/profile folder? Once I made new profiles everything worked for me.

girlracerTracey

Quote from: Klax75 on June 21, 2014, 11:08:58 PM
Quote from: girlracerTracey on June 21, 2014, 11:05:57 PM
Yes clean install but copied my tracks folder over from my "back-up" beta 4 gpbikes folder?

But did you change anything in your documents/piboso/gpbikes/profile folder? Once I made new profiles everything worked for me.

Yes. Brand new folder. Backed up my gpbikes profile folder .. new folder from fresh for beta 5..

Bit confused.

grT

Hawk

Quote from: girlracerTracey on June 21, 2014, 11:14:20 PM
Quote from: Klax75 on June 21, 2014, 11:08:58 PM
Quote from: girlracerTracey on June 21, 2014, 11:05:57 PM
Yes clean install but copied my tracks folder over from my "back-up" beta 4 gpbikes folder?

But did you change anything in your documents/piboso/gpbikes/profile folder? Once I made new profiles everything worked for me.

Yes. Brand new folder. Backed up my gpbikes profile folder .. new folder from fresh for beta 5..

Bit confused.

grT

Hi Tracey.

The first few times I tested beta 5 while loading the track it seemed to core.exe, but I didn't quit GPB, I left it running and after approx 2 mins it loaded the track okay. After that little hiccup GPB loaded all tracks I wanted to test with no problems.

Is this the first time/s you've tried to test a track in beta 5?

Hawk.

HornetMaX

Hmm you must have messed something.
Did you freshen only your profiles folder or the entire "documents/piboso/gpbikes" folder ?

I'd try to redo the fresh install again.

Silverstone definitely works for me (Monzabike v1 .1 as well).

MaX.

girlracerTracey

June 22, 2014, 02:06:30 AM #134 Last Edit: June 22, 2014, 02:19:45 AM by girlracerTracey
Did another clean install, exactly as before, and it works this time..

Having now tested the beta 5 round Silverstone I have to be honest in saying that I think the 500 varese I test rode was now too wheelie prone for my tastes particularly so in the higher gears..
Also the on the throttle "speed wobble" exiting bends felt a little bit strange if I am honest. The bike turned in nicely though. But overall my seat of the pants feeling was that I prefer beta 4 if I am honest. But if you were to tone down the wheelies and smooth out or eradicate the "speed wobble" on the throttle I think it could become very interesting. But this is only based upon my initial impressions. I need more time carefully comparing beta 4 and beta 5 which I can fire up quite easily for comparisons. 

Also as an observation the front end with beta 5 doesn't seem to track quite as precisely as it did in beta 4 to me on low speed bends..but as I say the bike turns in more quickly.

This seems like pros and cons and trade-offs to me..which I guess is only to be expected in adjusting a complex physics model.

Just my honest thoughts. Admittedly I am new to gpbikes and I am not an expert by any stretch of the imagination.

grT