Who uses Traction Control?

[EdouardB]

To me, the conclusion of my ride on the FSBK is that I respect MotoGP riders even more because the power must be insane.

Also another conclusion I think is that on the 2015 yamaha R1 I felt like the electronics made it somewhat easier to manage than a standard bike, whereas the FSBK one was not easier to ride at all, it just made it very different and faster to some (extent) for race pace but in some places the electronics actually made it a bit harder (coming out of slow turns and trying to anticipate when the TCS/ Lift was going to kick in and shift at the right time to not be held back wasn't easy).

About the pace, I was running about 9 seconds away from the Superbike lap record at the end of the session so nothing extraordinary, I could have gone 1 or 2 seconds faster (but not 9!!!) but didn't want to give a broken bike back to Yamaha

[HornetMaX]

Thx EdouardB.

For these things (TC, SC, AW) all the magic is in the control part (the "algorithm") and the actuators (the action the systems perform): today anybody is capable of having gyros, accelerometers and wheel speed sensors (and no need to say, GPB has all this data), what to do with all that is a tad harder.

I've read somewhere that the 2015 M1 R1 electronics can act on fuel cuts, ignition retard and throttle position to tame the power delivery: that's some complex stuff !

MaX.

[Napalm Nick]

Great read EdouardB, must of been amazing thanks for sharing info.

Great feedback for the game, hopefully PiB also finds it interesting.

[EdouardB]

I've read somewhere that the 2015 M1 electronics can act on fuel cuts, ignition retard and throttle position to tame the power delivery: that's some complex stuff !
MaX.

Same thing for the 2015 yamaha R1.

[HornetMaX]

I've read somewhere that the 2015 M1 electronics can act on fuel cuts, ignition retard and throttle position to tame the power delivery: that's some complex stuff !
MaX.

Same thing for the 2015 yamaha R1.

My bad, I meant the R1 (this time was me doing that specific slip) !

MaX.

[C21]

whereas the FSBK one was not easier to ride at all, it just made it very different and faster to some (extent) for race pace but in some places the electronics actually made it a bit harder (coming out of slow turns and trying to anticipate when the TCS/ Lift was going to kick in and shift at the right time to not be held back wasn't easy).

That´s the reason why the fast guys in GPB reduce the TCS/AW to the minimum.... They are faster without...
Would be nice to get more indept possibility to mod the TCS....

[Boerenlater]

Does the usage of tc ingame save tyrewear? I'm curious about that.

[BOBR6 84]

Does the usage of tc ingame save tyrewear? I'm curious about that.

Good question!

Fuel too?

Personally in GPB on the 990 at victoria I can go faster using TC.. But, I prefer the handling without TC..

so, if TC does save tyre wear and fuel? It probably ends up around the same because of the extra speed..

Who knows.. Just guessing.

[BOBR6 84]

Used TC quite alot lately trying to improve my laptime.. Its ok to be honest.
What I don't like is the anti-wheelie... Bike ends up like buckaroo! Easier to roll off the throttle a touch instead..

[Vini]

I also tried it a little bit and even when I only use the minimum traction control (which gives me basically no advantage in terms of traction), I can't get the maxium out of corners because the traction control cuts the engine as soon as the front wheel lifts a little bit under acceleration (while the bike is still leaned over).

[BOBR6 84]

Good point! TC cuts in when the front wheel lifts.. Why? Lol

[Vini]

Well, because the rear wheel actually slides a little because of the sudden load tranfser to the rear.

[HornetMaX]

Well, because the rear wheel actually slides a little because of the sudden load tranfser to the rear.

Uh, sounds wrong reasoning to me. Or maybe you're using the term "load transfer" and you mean something else.

MaX.

[LOOPATELI]

I think TC cuts on wheelies because of the speed difference between both wheels

[HornetMaX]

I think TC cuts on wheelies because of the speed difference between both wheels

Hmm ... I'm not sure the wheel speed diff is really used for TC, it depends on too many things.
And for me when AW is off, TC does not cut on wheelies (at least I don't recall having seen that).

One useful thing (already requested): it would be nice to have indicators (on the dashboard, on the GUI, in the plugin interface) telling when AW and TC are actually cutting.

MaX.