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[Old] Suter MMX500 v. 1.3 (Beta 14)

Started by Italian Mod Team, January 06, 2018, 08:11:14 pm

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KliPPiE

IMT of all people i thought you would know about 2 strokes and that they run and do not engine break like crazy as represented in 1.1 because i enjoyed the first version more then this as the bikes power was not as realistic as now but the handling was way better and bike was stable into the corners...
Kind Regards
KliPPiE

Italian Mod Team

February 10, 2018, 03:53:50 pm #121 Last Edit: February 10, 2018, 04:14:50 pm by Italian Mod Team
Quote from: KliPPiE on February 03, 2018, 01:16:04 pm
Wow, what a positive response to many negative feedback even from me, awesome update IMT great work !


Quote from: KliPPiE on February 10, 2018, 02:50:34 pm
IMT of all people i thought you would know about 2 strokes and that they run and do not engine break like crazy as represented in 1.1 because i enjoyed the first version more then this as the bikes power was not as realistic as now but the handling was way better and bike was stable into the corners...


Klippie... im sorry for you but its the same version of your first post...


Thread closed for excess of bullshit. If you dont like dont use it, also next bikes will be with the thread closed, no more strange feedback  ;D

Blackheart

Tonight a update for this bike (just a little file dont worry  ;))

Blackheart

Download Update 1.2 (Beta 14): Suter MMX500 v. 1.2 Update


Copy the file in the 500_Suter_MMX folder

Tosteetos

Hi, Blackheart. What was changed on this file? Just curious what is different on the bike.

Thanks!

Blackheart

Quote from: Tosteetos on October 10, 2018, 03:35:19 pm
Hi, Blackheart. What was changed on this file? Just curious what is different on the bike.

Thanks!


The main issues of this bike in this beta are braking instability and instability when you put the bike in the corner. The first the big issue of this beta and it is very visible because the bike is just 127kg, but i can't do too much for this.

I tried to make it slightly more manageable in the change directions, and now is possible slow down in less meters. It is far from the perfection but it is just a 1 hour update. It is yet a crazy beast, hard as hell.... but a little better.

I changed mainly chassis stiffness and the aerodynamic values increasing the downforce.

Imho few guys can ride this bike... and I like the idea of "impossible bike" ;D


javiliyors

U can fix de downshifting, sometimes the bikes need to down 10 gears to 1st ... is similar to the truck... ;D thanks blackheart!!

Blackheart

October 10, 2018, 04:39:40 pm #127 Last Edit: October 10, 2018, 05:18:29 pm by Blackheart
Quote from: javiliyors on October 10, 2018, 04:34:18 pm
U can fix de downshifting, sometimes the bikes need to down 10 gears to 1st ... is similar to the truck... ;D thanks blackheart!!


Right, also this is a big issue, not founded yet a solution, for sure the issue its in the clutch datas in the bike's cfg.

if someone will succeed to fix this problem before me, put here the solution  ;)

EDIT: ok fixed it

Before:

QuoteDisengageMaxTorque = 60


Tested

QuoteDisengageMaxTorque = 100


And works, i do some other tests before release this little update  8)

Blackheart

Download Update 1.2b (downshift fix, includes the 1.2 update): Suter MMX500 v. 1.2 Update


Copy the file in the 500_Suter_MMX folder

javiliyors


Blackheart

I need some testers  ::)

I've Wimp but he's the "not human" tester  ;D

Jorge Sprinter

I think the bike makes too much horse in excess and needs more weight in the front, otherwise it is very good

Blackheart

Quote from: Jorge Sprinter on October 11, 2018, 12:39:11 am
I think the bike makes too much horse in excess and needs more weight in the front, otherwise it is very good


The bike has real specs: 195hp less or more and about 127kg... I will never change anything about the engine power.


This feedback is about the test version (1.3) or 1.2b?

Because i need feeds about the 1.3 version not others.

thx

Blackheart

Release Version 1.3


This is not an update but its a full version (just delete the outdated version and install this one, delete old setups for avoid core.exe)

Changelog Version 1.3:

- New geometry (mainly weight distribution and new front susp).
- Improved  both suspensions.
- Changed again chassis stiffness.
- New tires (fixed sizes, now are a bit smaller in the phisics so the speed will be a bit lower), and increased the performance.



Some tips for not expert riders:

- ON\OFF with the throttle its not a good idea because the bike is very light and powerful.
- In downshift dont put the lower gears at high RPM.
- Use a little bit of the rear brake for increase the stability under hard braking (not too much!)
- Default front leverage is 18mm, but I recommend using 20mm.
- In the first lap the tires will be cold so... not push too much.


Download: https://mega.nz/#!YsghGIbK!E70avWOIxg_R-QOZ2J8WDdsmPjkyp-CNvzKkRqiooQ0



No more updates in the current Beta, this update is for have fun in the champ. So good luck with the "impossible bike" ;D

uberslug

What is the recommended front tire temperature range. The front was above 90 degrees on the sides and 100 in the middle within a four or five laps. The rear was staying between 55 and 65 degrees. I was lapping in the 1:39 range at Cheste which qualifies as slug like so I was a bit surprised to see such high temps on the front. I did not mess with any suspension settings or tire pressures nor was I braking all that hard.