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@piboso- Master cylinder

Started by C21, January 30, 2014, 07:18:27 AM

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C21

Could you please add an additional menu in the garage for the change of the brake Master cylinder Diameter?
We can add different diameters but could Not use them right now ;)
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HornetMaX

Quote from: C21 on January 30, 2014, 07:18:27 AM
Could you please add an additional menu in the garage for the change of the brake Master cylinder Diameter?
We can add different diameters but could Not use them right now ;)
People will get crazy combining leverage and master cylinder size, as the two act on the same thing essentially. But hey, that's how it works in reality so ...

In the while, if you want to experiment with that changing the master cylinder size in-game, you can "cheat" using the leverage parameter to account for both leverage and master cylinder size.

Example:

For the 990 the leverage has 3 possibilities : 16, 18 and 20mm. The ratios associated with them are 12.5, 11. and 10.0, which indicates the length of the brake lever (from the pivot to the point where the hand applies the force) is 200mm. These are for a master cylinder of 19mm diameter.


MasterCylinder0
{
Name = default
Diameter = 0.019
}
mastercylindersetting = 0
Leverage0
{
Name = 16mm
ratio = 12.5
}
Leverage1
{
Name = 18mm
ratio = 11.1111
}
Leverage2
{
Name = 20mm
ratio = 10
}


If you want to create 3 more cases for a master cylinder of let's say 17mm you can do this:

MasterCylinder0
{
Name = default
Diameter = 0.019
}
mastercylindersetting = 0
Leverage0
{
Name = 16mm-19MC
ratio = 12.5
}
Leverage1
{
Name = 18mm-19MC
ratio = 11.1111
}
Leverage2
{
Name = 20mm-19MC
ratio = 10
}
Leverage3
{
Name = 16mm-17MC
ratio = 12.5 * (0.019 / 0.017)^2
}
Leverage4
{
Name = 18mm-17MC
ratio = 11.1111  * (0.019 / 0.017)^2
}
Leverage5
{
Name = 20mm-17MC
ratio = 10  * (0.019 / 0.017)^2
}


The idea is that you include in the leverage ratio the change due to the master cylinder size change.

Notice that the combos 16mm-19MC and 20mm-17MC have more or less the same ratio value (12.5 vs 12.49), hence they will lead to the same behavior.

Makes sense ?

MaX.

C21

Lesson learned. ;D
Can be closed.
I think i have to Look a Bit more serious into it before asking... ;)
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HornetMaX

Quote from: C21 on January 30, 2014, 10:46:02 AM
Lesson learned. ;D
Can be closed.
I think i have to Look a Bit more serious into it before asking... ;)
No, I think your request is legitimate, after all in real life you have both settings (on a race bike), master cylinder and leverage.

The only doubt we may have is that, since the two are interacting, it may be confusing to some. But that's not a real reason for not doing it.

What I've shown above is that, even if we don't have the in-game setting for the master-cylinder, you have a workaround for that.
Of course the (separate) in-game setting would make the thing simpler for everybody.

MaX.