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[BIKESET] WSS 600

Started by ALEale, March 09, 2014, 12:13:01 PM

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ghostchild

Best Mod ever!!! Great work Italia!!  :D

Jiggens

Thank you Italia amazing work, well done. Very fun to ride these bikes and handling is very good, even finally broke 1m33s on Phillip island and passed my GSVR lap time I haven't been able to beat in 2 weeks!

C21

@Samuel desmo

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    To be honest I was developing a 749RS but now i can skip that..... :-\


thank god ...

I know your new on this forum so i don´t blame you for this statement.
But maybe it is better to think before posting?  ;)
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C21

March 19, 2014, 11:20:08 AM #123 Last Edit: March 19, 2014, 11:29:39 AM by C21
I expected to see different engines on the 600cc but they are all the same.
The gears and primary ratios on the 600cc are also the same....
Is there a reason why?
Daytona and 749R have their own gearsets, primary ratios and engines, so i don´t see a reason why the 600cc should not have their own ones too.....it would make it more realistic...

Did not yet have the time to ride the bikes...only looked at the data right now...

I think that everyone has different opinions what to expect from that mod and the prospect will be different.....so i only ask questions that are going to my mind....
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_oDi_

There is a very simple reason, the differences between the 4cil are so small that they are not justified. In addition, one of the 4  certainly would be the fastest, with the result that everyone would use that bike between 4cilinders ... instead  we want all the bikes are used, and the drivers make the difference. Of course, this argument can not be applied to the 3 or 2 cilinders.  :)

janaucarre

I note one thing this night:
We can't change gear ratio for each gear, only final ratio.
You talked about the fact that the 600 never been in first gear, im ok with that, but of course if we don't want to be in first gear in very slow corner we must to put a very short ratio, so in the straight we will be at full speed in the first 1/3.
I say that because after 20 or 30 laps at navarra it was ever impossible to not pass the first gear in almost every corner, and the straight is very long.

_oDi_

600 WSS  have fixed gear ( by official Regulation), You can only change front e real sprocket.

HornetMaX

Quote from: janaucarre on March 19, 2014, 12:22:05 PM
I note one thing this night:
We can't change gear ratio for each gear, only final ratio.
As per WSS rules, gear ratios are fixed (selected at beginning of season and then never changed). Only final ratio can be changed.

1st gear is short because these bikes have little torque in low revs, so you need a short 1st to start from the grid. After, you forget about 1st (or you use it very very carefully).

MaX.

Desteban

I really like the bikes, they are awesome! Engine break it not too much to be unridable but still noticeable and very well done!

I could use the first gear in Misano and Victoria without any issues! Don't know Navarra but shifting late is the key to use the first. Of course if you can use the second preferably take that one!

Davide74

Quote from: Desteban on March 19, 2014, 12:38:25 PM
I really like the bikes, they are awesome! Engine break it not too much to be unridable but still noticeable and very well done!

I could use the first gear in Misano and Victoria without any issues! Don't know Navarra but shifting late is the key to use the first. Of course if you can use the second preferably take that one!

That's right.

Warlock

Quote from: Desteban on March 19, 2014, 12:38:25 PM
I really like the bikes, they are awesome! Engine break it not too much to be unridable but still noticeable and very well done!

I could use the first gear in Misano and Victoria without any issues! Don't know Navarra but shifting late is the key to use the first. Of course if you can use the second preferably take that one!

Agree

C21

QuoteThere is a very simple reason, the differences between the 4cil are so small that they are not justified. In addition, one of the 4  certainly would be the fastest, with the result that everyone would use that bike between 4cilinders ... instead  we want all the bikes are used, and the drivers make the difference. Of course, this argument can not be applied to the 3 or 2 cilinders.
Thank you for the explanation.
I can understand your reason...but was expecting the different ;-)
(in my opinon: even if the differences between the 600cc are close they should be taken into the game....but anyway....it is how it is...)
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skerp

The differences are really minimal, as it should be, and how we plan to ensure that all the drivers were running with a motorcycle!
the big difference is of course with Ducati and Triumph, to which we have dedicated a specific physical naturally very close to reality, in terms of speed and weight, and overall performance

ALEale

Quote from: skerp on March 19, 2014, 02:45:22 PM
The differences are really minimal, as it should be, and how we plan to ensure that all the drivers were running with a motorcycle!
the big difference is of course with Ducati and Triumph, to which we have dedicated a specific physical naturally very close to reality, in terms of speed and weight, and overall performance

+1

minchia come sei internazionale... hai finito il Cepu? ahahahahahah

_oDi_

March 19, 2014, 03:11:28 PM #134 Last Edit: March 19, 2014, 03:20:02 PM by _oDi_
Quote from: C21 on March 19, 2014, 02:33:54 PM
QuoteThere is a very simple reason, the differences between the 4cil are so small that they are not justified. In addition, one of the 4  certainly would be the fastest, with the result that everyone would use that bike between 4cilinders ... instead  we want all the bikes are used, and the drivers make the difference. Of course, this argument can not be applied to the 3 or 2 cilinders.
Thank you for the explanation.
I can understand your reason...but was expecting the different ;-)
(in my opinon: even if the differences between the 600cc are close they should be taken into the game....but anyway....it is how it is...)

yes...at first I thought of making a different physics, then by consulting with all the other guys  we decided to make unique physic for japan bikes .. now let's see how it goes with this solution and then maybe in the future i will make different physics (or not)