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Full motion simulator

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BOBR6 84

December 19, 2014, 04:19:02 AM #75 Last Edit: December 19, 2014, 04:27:26 AM by BOBR6 84
@GOG some good points in there mate!

Sometimes I wonder if it would make sense to take the netbike route..

Ie. No virtual rider.. Or a rider just for show when racing with other players..

Then lock the camera to onboard only with the ability to adjust the camera/head position. Its a simulator afterall..

At the moment its almost like having 2 people control 1 bike.. lol

h106frp

Got to have riders hands and arms showing in first person though even if no rider, also the shadow of the rider on the bike otherwise the 'ghost rider' thing is a bit weird.

Maybe rider head position will be part of the 'riding style' option in the bike select menu, with 'modern' giving more extreme rider movements, 'Classic (80's)' rider might stay a bit more tucked in behind the fairing etc. Be interesting to see if this reflected as better lap times/corner speeds in the simulation. Would be nice to have a rider 'fatigue' parameter to provide a balance for the styles though ;)

BOBR6 84

yeah i agree man, thats a good point about styles.. would it affect the handling? hmmm

at the moment.. obviously its still very good but i dont like the fact the VR looks after the bars.. i want to do that lol but DST is too hard with a pad for me..

doubledragoncc

Hi guys,

yeah but its back to the VR point.........

Any system that can NOT work without VR is in itself not a full motion system. Forcing people to wear a VR set is wrong to start with. I refuse to use one as I plain and simply dont want to put something on my head..........point!!!
Iknow we ride with helmets, but its the one plus point of being in a room, you dont HAVE to wear a helmet, your not going to crash!!!!!!!!!!! So lets at least make it fun and not force people to have to spend LOTS of additional money and force them to wear something on their FACE. Some people have problems with it, I do. My face has been badly smashed structurally, and I HATE anything or anyone getting near my face. Even sunglasses bug me. I am not the only one and it should be considered. All you need is head tracking and that works fine without a frickin facebox lol.

If a system works well enough, it will immerse the rider so much they will not have the need for VR. Even on my static systems, I get so involved in riding I dont realize there is a world around me, all my thoughts are on the screen and my controls, I dont need VR. I also think many of you forget that a bike at full speed that is then thrown to the side for a curve, if simulated correctly, it could be dangerous to an unsuspecting rider. It only takes one incident and someone could get hurt. Unless you want to surround the system with rubber mats there needs to be a limit to the angle, speed and velocity of movement. If you study many of these car motion simulators, you will find many are making people sick, even professional F1 drivers have stated it. In a closed enviroment and without mother natures forces at work, the rider will quickly become sick, look at bucking bronco's from the USA.

These points must be considered, you can not just go by textbook physics and say it will work. You have to look outside of the box.

DD
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G0G

I keep crashing  arrgh... cant get used to the rider being so high on the bike.
http://youtu.be/mUaev91MjnQ

I think it fair to say.. GPB is getting closer and closer to high end simulation... it is, by far, the best thing going.
What will truly make VR work is a sensor for all moving parts. The turning handlebars and the pivoting chassis. If we can see our moving hands AND the bike's moving parts, we can feel planted in the VR setting and not have to roam all over looking for center... lost in space.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/controlvr/control-vr-motion-capture-for-vr-animation-and-mor

doubledragoncc

Great links GOG. I cant wait for the prices to drop so more can have this tech.

DD
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h106frp

Wonder how many of these will get converted  ;) love the gyro front wheel, and the whole thing is very compact for multi axis
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxSpWZjn3eg#t=52

doubledragoncc

Thats impressive H. Wonder what price though???

DD
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Tsitakondaza

January 22, 2015, 08:56:25 AM #83 Last Edit: January 29, 2015, 06:25:10 AM by Tsitakondaza
I just joined this forum and...very nice ;D
accessoires Google Nexus 6 etui Google Nexus 6

doubledragoncc

Welcome to GP Bikes forum Tsitakondaza. Theres plenty of Mods so you should be busy for a while. Enjoy m8.

DD
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Hawk

Quote from: Tsitakondaza on January 22, 2015, 08:56:25 AM
I just joined this forum and...very nice ;D

Welcome aboard Tsitakondaza!  ;)

Hawk.

doubledragoncc

G'day Hawk.

I should have my business plan done this week and once I get the reply form GLE about the money I should be releasing more details on my new product lineup for bike controls. Theres a few things you guys should like!!!

DD
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Hawk

Quote from: doubledragoncc on January 22, 2015, 06:17:21 PM
G'day Hawk.

I should have my business plan done this week and once I get the reply form GLE about the money I should be releasing more details on my new product lineup for bike controls. Theres a few things you guys should like!!!

DD

Sounds great mate!

I look forward to hearing about all this. Keep up the good work mate... Exciting times ahead, eh!  ;) ;D

Hawk.

doubledragoncc

Thanks Hawk. Yeah exciting times indeed. Just had a University in Malaysia requesting a system and I not open yet lol.

Cant wait to start dude!!!

DD
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