@PiBoSo: 2 Easy but important fixes for beta8

[Vini]

While we are all looking forward to the improvements beta8 will bring, here are three two very important issues that can be easily fixed but might have been overlooked by you.


1 Disable bike<->knee/rider clipping/collisions to avoid the rider falling off the bike when it reaches higher lean angles at banked corners or gets very close to curbs (without losing traction).

2 Remove the 145 km/h minimum speed limit required to gain full control over the rider (complete lateral and longitudinal rider lean range available at any time) when using full manual rider lean as opposed to manual overwrite (ability to tuck behind the windscreen / lean forward at all velocities like it's possible with auto rider lean).


Half Done    3 Include parameter in the bike cfg that can invert (reverse crankshaft, e.g. M1) or remove (dual counter-rotating crankshafts, e.g. varese/c594) the engine reaction torque when bikes use alternative crankshaft layouts.

Done     Suggestion: Increase the amount of different tyre sets available for bikes.

[PiBoSo]

3 Include parameter in the bike cfg that can invert (reverse crankshaft, e.g. M1) or remove (dual counter-rotating crankshafts, e.g. varese/c594) the engine reaction torque when bikes use alternative crankshaft layouts.

In the engine section of the bike CFG file:

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RotationAxis = forward


The options are:
- forward ( same rotation direction of the rear wheel; it is the default if no rotation axis is set )
- counter-rotating
- longitudinal clockwise
- longitudinal counter-clockwise

[matty0l215]

Suggestion: Increase the amount of different tyre sets available for bikes.

New tyres can already be added? Or do you mean the stock bikes?

[C21]

You can only set 6 different tyres (e.g. extrasoft/soft/medium/hard/extrahard/wet) for front and rear.
But in real life (e.g. MGP) you have more tyre options available (asymetric1, asymteric2, softwet, hardwet,....)
Right now you can scribe 10 different tyres in the fcg (e.g. for front) but only 6 of them are available in the garage.
Would be nice to increase the amount to 10 each.

(to be honest that was restricted in B6C as i last tried to config more then 6...don´t know if the limit has been raised yet)

In the engine section of the bike CFG file:
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RotationAxis = forward


The options are:
- forward ( same rotation direction of the rear wheel; it is the default if no rotation axis is set )
- counter-rotating
- longitudinal clockwise
- longitudinal counter-clockwise

Sorry but i could not find the line on the cfg file.
Do you mean it has to be manually edited?

[HornetMaX]

In the engine section of the bike CFG file:

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RotationAxis = forward


The options are:
- forward ( same rotation direction of the rear wheel; it is the default if no rotation axis is set )
- counter-rotating
- longitudinal clockwise
- longitudinal counter-clockwise

w00t !! Thanks ! For counter-rotating, no additional inertia and/or gear ratio must be specified I assume. Right ?

Side question: should we throw random ideas at you in the hope they are already implemented ? Cause we're good at that

[Vini]

So, was anyone aware of this parameter?


Anyway, thanks for the info, PiBoSo!

[C21]

How should we? (it was not described anywhere...)
You have do add it manually....
AND
it works!!!!
I drove the M1 forward cranking and counter cranking. Really different drivng behavoir. Same setup and the wheelie tendency is much much decreased using counter rotation.....very impressive Pibosos!!! 

[Vini]

Which value did you use?

I am slightly confused at the moment because I expected only three different values: forwards, backwards (compared to the wheels) and counter-rotating (twin/dual cranks).

Ok, figured it out. Thanks C21!
Backwards rotating crank: counter-rotating
Forwards rotating crank: forward
longitudinally mounted engines / transversely mounted engine (conventional) with counter-rotating cranks (cheat): longitudinal clockwise / longitudinal counter-clockwise

....Tested it with the M1 (b3.1) and the difference is definitely very noticable. Very cool feature, PiBoSo!

@PiBoSo: The Varese is currently using the default value forward, although the Cagiva C594 (like almost all other 500cc V4s) used dual counter-rotating crankshafts (rotating against each other).
So the value has to be changed to longitudinal clockwise/counter-clockwise in the next beta.

[Docfumi]

@ vin97. can you post the part of your Config
so I can see where it goes please?

[PiBoSo]

So the value has to be changed to longitudinal clockwise/counter-clockwise in the next beta.

"Longitudinal" is for engines like the BMW boxer.

[Vini]

@PiBoSo:
Alright, ok, makes sense

But then we need one additional value for the Varese and other dual crank bikes, don't we?
Or is it possible to combine different values (forward+counter-rotating / longitudinal clockwise+longitudinal counter-clockwise)?


You are right of course that cheating by using the longitudinal value is not really a good solution because it would make the bike dip to one side (though, I am not sure as to how great this effect is in reality).

[Toomes1]

@ vin97. can you post the part of your Config
so I can see where it goes please?

+1 please.

[Vini]

MotoGP_2015_Yamaha_YZM-M1.cfg

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type = bike

ID = MotoGP_2015_Yamaha_YZM-M1

geom_id = MotoGP_2015_Yamaha_YZM-M1
geom = Yamaha YZR M1 2015.geom

engine
{
RotationAxis = counter-rotating
Inertia = 0.02

mapping0
{
...
...

[Toomes1]

Thanks Vin97 will try that tomorrow.

[Klax75]

I'm all for 2 on the list for the past couple years.