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MotoGP Physics Mod

Started by Urban Chaos 2.0, February 05, 2016, 06:45:34 PM

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Napalm Nick

OK so this is what I am feeling at the moment. Open to furious debate of course and I need a lot longer on the game (in a championship to comment on the AI laptime and AI bug fixes).

After reading the previous MOD and original MOD changelogs I would suggest the correct term for the changes are that the 'functions of the arcade game' have been improved. I'm not convinced any of the settings in the files have true to life 'physics' relations built on mass, gravity, and force, which means the term 'physics Mod' should be taken lightly.

So am I slating it?  No - not at all - it seems to be a great MOD that improves the game for serious gamers likely to complete whole championships and want a good challenge, that is not mired by the stupid delay bugs and unrealistic lap time variations for the AI.

The 'physics' changes are designed to make the bikes feel more real (EG: changes to the braking distances, looser rear ends (fun!), leaning angle tweaks etc) which is a wonderful thing that, alongside the AI improvements, make the game more fun to anyone who has ever ridden one.

I would say they have put it on the path to be a Good simcade! And a fun game to play (not that you can do it online if you are running Mod files it seems).

Like I say I have only two bikes and some short testing on one track so far (about to try Brno), hardly enough to get you upset if you don't agree with me - I need to run a championship and ideally in normal and Modded modes.

Unfortunately I doubt that is going to happen because it is just sooo ugly to look at.   But I will definitely be putting in some more time
and will try a championship to get a better opinion and will update  this in due course.

"It's like going from MotoGP14 to MotoGP17. Really, the difference is that big"  I want to believe that but do you mean  "because now it is a more realistic racing experience against the AI" (huge AI improvement) or "because now the bikes are much better to ride" ?? To be fair I would say both things but on a 70:30 split.

Off to try a bit more, like I say I am openminded and I might come back saying I was talking bollox and needed more time in game....lets hope.
"The post you are writing has been written at least ten times already in the last 15ish years. Its already been reported, suggested, discussed, ignored or archived (but mostly ignored). Why are you doing it again?"

Urban Chaos 2.0

Quote from: Napalm Nick on February 06, 2016, 08:14:55 PM
OK so this is what I am feeling at the moment. Open to furious debate of course and I need a lot longer on the game (in a championship to comment on the AI laptime and AI bug fixes).

After reading the previous MOD and original MOD changelogs I would suggest the correct term for the changes are that the 'functions of the arcade game' have been improved. I'm not convinced any of the settings in the files have true to life 'physics' relations built on mass, gravity, and force, which means the term 'physics Mod' should be taken lightly.

So am I slating it?  No - not at all - it seems to be a great MOD that improves the game for serious gamers likely to complete whole championships and want a good challenge, that is not mired by the stupid delay bugs and unrealistic lap time variations for the AI.

The 'physics' changes are designed to make the bikes feel more real (EG: changes to the braking distances, looser rear ends (fun!), leaning angle tweaks etc) which is a wonderful thing that, alongside the AI improvements, make the game more fun to anyone who has ever ridden one.

I would say they have put it on the path to be a Good simcade! And a fun game to play (not that you can do it online if you are running Mod files it seems).

Like I say I have only two bikes and some short testing on one track so far (about to try Brno), hardly enough to get you upset if you don't agree with me - I need to run a championship and ideally in normal and Modded modes.

Unfortunately I doubt that is going to happen because it is just sooo ugly to look at.   But I will definitely be putting in some more time
and will try a championship to get a better opinion and will update  this in due course.

"It's like going from MotoGP14 to MotoGP17. Really, the difference is that big"  I want to believe that but do you mean  "because now it is a more realistic racing experience against the AI" (huge AI improvement) or "because now the bikes are much better to ride" ?? To be fair I would say both things but on a 70:30 split.

Off to try a bit more, like I say I am openminded and I might come back saying I was talking bollox and needed more time in game....lets hope.


I take it you're riding the Yamaha M1. Don't. It's poorly balanced (Milestone's fault. Can't be circumvented). You need to ride the RC213V. It's the most balanced and feels the most natural. Particularly, you need to ride Stefan Bradl's LCR Honda. In my opinion it's the best bike in the game (in terms of feel).

Napalm Nick

No I was riding some of the lesser bikes. I will try that LCR next.
"The post you are writing has been written at least ten times already in the last 15ish years. Its already been reported, suggested, discussed, ignored or archived (but mostly ignored). Why are you doing it again?"

Blackheart

I'm sorry if you'll look a little bad, but everything has a limit.

Internet is a great place ... I had never read bullshit like this:


Urban Chaos 2.0

February 06, 2016, 09:00:59 PM #49 Last Edit: February 06, 2016, 09:03:22 PM by Urban Chaos 2.0
Posted four months ago. Before I ever got into modding. You know: Piboso needs to include a "block" feature for insignificant and impudent annoyances such as Black Heart who have such little meaning in their trite little lives, they go to desperate and great lengths to defame someone. Lol, he thinks I don't know who or what he is.

Blackheart

February 06, 2016, 09:07:51 PM #50 Last Edit: February 06, 2016, 09:11:37 PM by Blackheart
Quote from: Urban Chaos 2.0 on February 06, 2016, 09:00:59 PM
Posted four months ago. Before I ever got into modding. You know: Piboso needs to include a "block" feature for insignificant and impudent annoyances such as Black Heart who have such little meaning in their trite little lives, they go to desperate and great lengths to defame someone. Lol, he thinks I don't know who or what he is.

I hope you will be banned from this forum, with your stupid calumnies on youtube also risks that potential buyers of GP Bikes, really think that physics is not realistic ...

EDIT: You're definitely a troll so you will not have more answers from me.


doubledragoncc

DING DING round 3

Come on guys play nicey nicey now lmfao......................seriously did one of you nick the others sweeties or something?

;D
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Blackheart

I am calm XD

Now I am trying a new sim, it is called Mario Kart... looking good  ;D

Napalm Nick

Why is this MotoGP game so frikkin bad on the eyes - it looks really horrible at 1920 res, I mean my eyes are actually sore from it.  Was 2014 a terrible console Port or something or did they give up some of the eye candy for better bikes 'physics'? If so it is usually the other way round so maybe a little respect due there.

Just took the BMW M4 Safety car out for a spin (but couldn't get it to spin lol)  and that is a novel thing for a bike game  8)

Maybe something there for PiBoSo to consider - a WRS/GPBikes amalgamation!

Also had some GP and M3 races and all good fun (pretty darn hard at Pro/Real level too!).

Ok so my bottom line so far on this game is it is fun AND it has been made better by the MOD. It is nearly a simcade too. It hasn't given me any feeling of a real bike unfortunately, due I think to the lack of trepidation the arcade-ness brings. However, that wasn't the point of my test. Like I said your Mods have improved the game it seems.

If anyone ever askes "How does it compare with GPBikes" please remember the orange/banana analogy.

Its taken me a year of practice (nearly every day) to get competent (not good) on GPBikes and that is probably the same as real life if Bradley Smith lent me his keys.  For me personally (no slight on the game) I doubt MotoGP14 will keep me interested for a week. But that's me. What you guys have done with MotoGP14 is all good stuff.

Now get over here and apply your skills to a REAL bike game hehehe! Only kidding (ish).  ;) 
"The post you are writing has been written at least ten times already in the last 15ish years. Its already been reported, suggested, discussed, ignored or archived (but mostly ignored). Why are you doing it again?"

doubledragoncc

THANKS FOR TESTING

I will try it too, so mod plus my controller should be goodish lol

DD
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Napalm Nick

Yes it should be good with your controller unless the constant loss of controller configuration makes you smash it all up with a metal baseball bat shouting "For the love of God fix the bugzzz!"
"The post you are writing has been written at least ten times already in the last 15ish years. Its already been reported, suggested, discussed, ignored or archived (but mostly ignored). Why are you doing it again?"

doubledragoncc

last time l had 14 on my system l never lost setups and never have in any motogp mine run flawlessly except graphic stutter even at 60fps as all milestone games do.

using x360ce stops many control issues maybe?

l actually enjoy ride,sbk and motogp now with my controller alone its a game changer in itself.

DD
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Vini

Quote from: Urban Chaos 2.0 on February 06, 2016, 09:00:59 PM
Posted four months ago. Before I ever got into modding. You know: Piboso needs to include a "block" feature for insignificant and impudent annoyances such as Black Heart who have such little meaning in their trite little lives, they go to desperate and great lengths to defame someone. Lol, he thinks I don't know who or what he is.

looool


what is going on in the forum in the last few days

Urban Chaos 2.0

February 07, 2016, 03:53:13 AM #58 Last Edit: February 07, 2016, 04:00:11 AM by Urban Chaos 2.0
Quote from: Napalm Nick on February 06, 2016, 10:14:47 PM
Why is this MotoGP game so frikkin bad on the eyes - it looks really horrible at 1920 res, I mean my eyes are actually sore from it.  Was 2014 a terrible console Port or something or did they give up some of the eye candy for better bikes 'physics'? If so it is usually the other way round so maybe a little respect due there.

Just took the BMW M4 Safety car out for a spin (but couldn't get it to spin lol)  and that is a novel thing for a bike game  8)

Maybe something there for PiBoSo to consider - a WRS/GPBikes amalgamation!

Also had some GP and M3 races and all good fun (pretty darn hard at Pro/Real level too!).

Ok so my bottom line so far on this game is it is fun AND it has been made better by the MOD. It is nearly a simcade too. It hasn't given me any feeling of a real bike unfortunately, due I think to the lack of trepidation the arcade-ness brings. However, that wasn't the point of my test. Like I said your Mods have improved the game it seems.

If anyone ever askes "How does it compare with GPBikes" please remember the orange/banana analogy.

Its taken me a year of practice (nearly every day) to get competent (not good) on GPBikes and that is probably the same as real life if Bradley Smith lent me his keys.  For me personally (no slight on the game) I doubt MotoGP14 will keep me interested for a week. But that's me. What you guys have done with MotoGP14 is all good stuff.

Now get over here and apply your skills to a REAL bike game hehehe! Only kidding (ish).  ;)

"Arcade" to "Simcade" is a pretty big step, so I'm not mad. I'll take that as compliment, haha.

Urban Chaos 2.0

February 07, 2016, 03:56:57 AM #59 Last Edit: February 07, 2016, 05:52:50 AM by Urban Chaos 2.0
Quote from: doubledragoncc on February 07, 2016, 01:00:42 AM
last time l had 14 on my system l never lost setups and never have in any motogp mine run flawlessly except graphic stutter even at 60fps as all milestone games do.

using x360ce stops many control issues maybe?

l actually enjoy ride,sbk and motogp now with my controller alone its a game changer in itself.

DD

x360ce certainly solved my MotoGP14 controller issues, so it should help yours. If you enjoyed Ride or MotoGP, then the physics mod will as well certainly reinvigorate your desire to play MotoGP14.