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Started by Reactive, December 26, 2013, 11:35:21 AM

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RBp

thinks there a model in the way causing the issue.

could be racing the wrong way as well buddy.

Docfumi

@ janaucarre, this version of the track crashes to desktop in the connected Menu screen for me.  :o
I didn't lose the race, I ran out of laps.

janaucarre

Thx doc, i delete my post because i have found what makes tre crash:
Too many centerlines parts=>365, I think it's the least I can put on this track.

Please PIBOSO, say us how to increase the number of the centerline. :)

HornetMaX

Quote from: janaucarre on February 04, 2014, 10:58:33 PM
Please PIBOSO, say us how to increase the number of the centerline. :)
Added to wishlist (Piboso said it should be easy to increase that limit).

MaX.

janaucarre

THX max.

To Reactiv:
I find little wrong things in the 3ds max project:
- The textures must be in multi sub material
- Don't know if it's really important but the names you used for the differents parts of the scenes were like that=> TRKASPH001        Like Piboso write in the tracktool reference it must be named like this=> TRKASPH_001
- I saw a teepot near the startline, probably for you to reper.
- piboso said that all parts must be in polygons

Here is a link for testing what i have made: centerline(max parts 285), export without invisible walls, rdf rebuild(because of the centerline), parts well named, multi submaterial for textures.

https://mega.co.nz/#!ZpEHRSSY!p1MY-kO9bah7uF_-4zgFsgop47q7kvbcEy9tzBQYu94

I post an entire centerline with 365 parts(for the future of gpbikes because not possible now):

https://mega.co.nz/#!F1N0mChC!bTtYBpY9pSIsywoeew5BRFuy3oME_QHc8xK-wd5V4vI

Now i can load the track but fps are at 0 and i can't go to track, perhaps anybody can do it.

Reactive

February 05, 2014, 04:43:46 AM #50 Last Edit: February 05, 2014, 06:32:32 AM by Reactive
Much thanks, janaucarre!
Actually, I made full .tcl too, wich was in very first versions (now I lost it somewhere, possibly deleted) — game was unable to load (freezing on "connected" screen and core.exe crash). So I even sent the archive to PiBoSo with request "As you know, we had started modeling the IOM track. Im trying to put the model in game, but it crashes on 2 of my PCs. May be you will so kindly to take a look, may be you can locate the problem?", but no response. Then noss69 gived idea about those too much complicated .tcl and made just temporary short centerline and it starts to loading. It was a problem #1 — limitations in centerline. But this is not the end.
I was noticed in another problem, and some guys (Klax75 in Reply39 and Avross in Reply40) had the same. Im not sure because Im not a programmer and dont know the sctructure of code, but as for me it looks like the Game engine as is have a limits in game world. In those very first release the track was centered by start-finish (white dot on the map in reply 35) on the center of coordinates, so i had "fall out problem" somehere near light blue dot (marked on the map). Then I moved the track a lot down in Y-axis and point of fall out moved too. So I simply centered the track on Y-axis (and forgot to centered on X-axis hehe). Thats why now player start from yellow dot, because when you ride to world border (green point) — bug begings increasingly. And after green point its absolutly impossible to ride, rider fall out constantly. Because, as I sad before, I made very detailed centerline, the model was scaled to length 60720 and this is final scale and must not be scaled in any side (see Reply29).
This is the game bug, or just a limitation or whatever I dont know, but only PiBoSo can fix it.

Problem is not in materials, naming etc, I already tried it all.
I can not ride on your track, rider fall out constantly.
Excuse my English, its not my native.
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janaucarre

ok, a little lost time, but ive learned something.
To much big, not rideable.
Happy you dont have finished the track to see that.
Thx.
Perhaps pibos makes test to see if we can ride a big big track in the future.

Hawk

Quote from: janaucarre on February 05, 2014, 11:42:21 AM
ok, a little lost time, but ive learned something.
To much big, not rideable.
Happy you dont have finished the track to see that.
Thx.
Perhaps pibos makes test to see if we can ride a big big track in the future.


It was good that you guys gave it a try and learned about what is needed to run a track of this size in GP Bikes. Hopefully Piboso can accommodate the requirements in a future version(Hopefully after the netcode core.exe's have been sorted. Hehe).

I really hoped you guys could somehow pull this project off and make it work, it would have been amazing! ;D 8)
It was certainly worth the try. Keep the data safe as we might need it in the future. ;)

Very nice try..... Well done guys! ;D

Reactive

Thanks for your support, but i had a plans to release at least simple rideable version as soon as possible, because after April i`ll be out of forums and is exact from modding until Autumn  :P
 
Excuse my English, its not my native.
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Skymx99

This looks like a huge project.  Good luck with it all.  Hopefully you can get everything sorted out eventually.

Reactive

February 12, 2014, 06:59:57 AM #55 Last Edit: February 12, 2014, 09:36:26 AM by Reactive
Well, continue preparing process  :D
Here is .kml, where are marked Corner Signs, Milestones and Repers
http://yadi.sk/d/79ke5pzqHjqe9
based on this video
http://www.youtube.com/v/W7HWp-Q5ijk
youtube.com/watch?v=W7HWp-Q5ijk (as I readed before, signs in 2013 where changed, so I used fresh video to recognize the signs, I can tell you there are absolutly different from 2010-2011 in the Google Street View).
Was also used:
http://www.iomttbreaks.com/isle-of-man/spectator-guide
http://www.iomtt.com/press/Schedule.pdf
http://www.streetmap.co.uk/map.srf?x=238311&y=477221&z=120&sv=Isle+of+man&st=3&tl=Map+of+Isle+of+Man+Tourist+Trophy+Circuit,+Isle+of+Man+[Place+of+Interest]&searchp=ids.srf&mapp=map.srf
http://www.iomttposters.com/images/posterb.jpg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cu8dizCNsqo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40eyE0aXDJY

Need help in recognize some signs: "|" 0:02:44; "Ballaugh Bridge?" 0:26:23; "Bungalow?" 0:44:29; "Unknown, Hilwood rise?" 0:44:54
Need help in recornize Milestouns "11" 0:18:50; "?" 0:25:21; "20" 0:30:35; "22" can`t find them on video.
Anyway you can see the first video yourself and may find out or correct something.

Final step will be recognizing all Repers, listed in this video
http://www.youtube.com/v/94wwS_J95Lg
youtube.com/watch?v=94wwS_J95Lg

Any help will be appreciated, because Im not a native English speaker, so have no good skill in listening.  ::)
Excuse my English, its not my native.
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C21

# Member of the CAWS Racing Team #


Reactive

March 03, 2014, 10:03:27 AM #57 Last Edit: March 03, 2014, 10:08:30 AM by Reactive
Thanx C21, i know first site and forum, shall create thread here later. Second link looks very informative, I`ll check it of course.

But still the main problem is limits of the world. I hope soon Piboso will seat and  fix it.  ;)

Excuse my English, its not my native.
Ryzen7 1800x / Aorus GA-AX370 Gaming K7 / Hynix 16Gb x2 2993MHz / Samsung 960PRO 512 M.2 / nVidia GTX1060 6Gb / Windows 10 pro x64

EnhanceJohn

Hi Reactive,
Very interesting that you are working on the IOM. The best source there is at the moment is this thread on the IOM TT forum. Silja has made a comprehensive description of the track, with downloadable map. Silja is also the person narrating in one of your youtube films listed.

I'll try to search the points you've said that are unclear to you, the first one is Ago's Leap

EnhanceJohn

Quote from: Reactive on February 12, 2014, 06:59:57 AM

Need help in recognize some signs: "|=Ago's Leap" 0:02:44; "Ballaugh Bridge? and this picture" 0:26:23; "Bungalow= Verandah" 0:44:29; "Unknown, Hilwood rise= Hailwoods Rise" 0:44:54
Need help in recornize Milestouns "11" 0:18:50; "0:25:21=Alpine Cottage, is on 16,5 miles into the track. 16th milestone or 17th milestone " ; " 20th" 0:30:35; "22" can`t find them on video.
Anyway you can see the first video yourself and may find out or correct something.

The milestone markers are probably older types. The ones with Arai advertisement I did not notice the last time I was there. If you need some pictures, in august I'll visit the Manx again....