Bike Mod - Discontinued

[SwarleyRuiz]

In reality is not possible that capcom or milestone denumces you. You are just sharing the work of modders without any economical beneficit. Nowadays exist tons of webpages that share films, videogames and a lot of stuff and the admins gains a lot of money and cinematic companyes candt do nothing. Internet is freedom. But I undestand your point of view.

If you want you can host a new webpage in Russia and you will be totally inmune.

OFFTOPIC SPANISH

Lluisete: Soy un ignorante en esto de las leyes y no se donde esta el limite. Cuando vi que mis datos personales se hacen publico y que cualquiera puede verlos. No quiero ser el primero en recibir una denuncia por saltarme el copyright. Lo que dices de Rusia esta bien si ponéis un bote para crear una web, yo pongo dinero, pero habria que buscar un servidor de espacio y trafico ilimitado para las descargas como el que yo tengo en Aruba.it y un servidor rapido para tener fluides en la web como el que yo tengo en tamainut.com

[Nitrox]

This is bad news really

However, what about letting the mod creators manage the mods? We could create a MEGA account with user name and password accessible for forum members. So everyone could upload newer versions of bikes/paints there....

Open dropbox would not be a good idea btw - people mess it up always and one could easily upload malware to other people's pcs..

BTW: In the long term an in-game solution would be best (automatically p2p downloading bikes, paints and tracks when joining server).

[Hawk]

In reality is not possible that capcom or milestone denumces you. You are just sharing the work of modders without any economical beneficit. Nowadays exist tons of webpages that share films, videogames and a lot of stuff and the admins gains a lot of money and cinematic companyes candt do nothing. Internet is freedom. But I undestand your point of view.

If you want you can host a new webpage in Russia and you will be totally inmune.

All due respect, lluisete, but you are SO wrong..... It doesn't matter whether you are sharing ripped work without gain or not, it doesn't matter whether you have changed or modified the ripped file it is still someone else's work that is being used without permission, and therefore you are still supplying that track or model illegally if you have not sort the permission of the company or person who originally created it, simple as, there is no getting around it, no matter how much you support a totally "Free Internet"(Free sharing all around the world for nothing) people who create a product still have rights to prosecute for plagiarising their hard work.
But I think the net is starting to close in on people who plagiarise others work since ISP's are starting to be held responsible to act with regards to the content on their servers.

Don't get me wrong. I sympathise about the situation, I really do, I'm all for a free internet to a certain degree, but times are a changing.

PS: I think even with all the corruption in Russia that allows them to get away with this sort of thing without restriction will sooner or later come to an end, or Russian originated web addresses will simply be blocked by western ISP's.

[SwarleyRuiz]

The provider of the website, you can close the website, if you do not comply with the law.

[Hawk]

JamoZ... It's a sad day that you have decided to finish the Multi Bike Mod and paints database. You were doing a great job I thought considering the multitude of updates from week to week.

It's not easy to do this sort of thing.... a lot more work than people realise, and yes, you will always get those that are not happy with the way you do things, but you just have to realise that you cannot please everyone in this world,  just do things the way you feel is best to do them; yes by all means take on board others ideas if they are good ideas, but in the end you have to do it the way you think is best.

I have been thinking of maybe taking up the rains to do the paint database again, but I'm just so busy right now that I don't know whether to do it or not.

Now JamoZ has sadly stopped, I really hope somebody else will take on the task of organising the easy supply of Mod Bikes and Paints for the bikes or things are soon going to descend into a chaotic mess with everyone asking were to get this and that bike or paint all the time, like it was before myself and Jamoz got things organised for the easy accessibility of the Tracks/Paints and Mod Bikes... Come on guys, someone else must be able to organise this?

[HornetMaX]

Don't get me wrong. I sympathise about the situation, I really do, I'm all for a free internet to a certain degree, but times are a changing.

Hawk_UK is, of course, right. The sentence "Internet is freedom" made me laugh a good one.

And by the way, "free internet" (which is good) has nothing to do with copying or distributing other's work, authorized or not.

However, I'm not sure the risk is really big: especially when ripping stuff from older games and modifying it heavily. Also, the fact the ripped material has no commercial goal whatsoever (none at all, not even web advertising), then the argument is pretty weak.

@BRM: you uploaded a copy of what ? Because if you uploaded a copy of a whole game, then this is definitely a problem.

PS: I think even with all the corruption in Russia that allows them to get away with this sort of thing without restriction will sooner or later come to an end, or Russian originated web addresses will simply be blocked by western ISP's.

On this one, I think you're a bit optimistic about the negotiating power of "western" countries versus our vodka-drinking friends.

MaX.

[JamoZ]

Keep in mind that the paint database is up to date and open to grab for all. So for the one who wants to take that simpel task on him, it`s just a matter of downloading the database and reuploading it again...

[lluisete]

Aham... Internet is not freedom. Talk with SKIDROW, ThePirateBay or similar. 

[SwarleyRuiz]

@BRM: you uploaded a copy of what ? Because if you uploaded a copy of a whole game, then this is definitely a problem.

I not upload to my website, downloads  that are copies of other games (circuit, skin, 3d models) for fear that close the web.

[Hawk]

PS: I think even with all the corruption in Russia that allows them to get away with this sort of thing without restriction will sooner or later come to an end, or Russian originated web addresses will simply be blocked by western ISP's.

On this one, I think you're a bit optimistic about the negotiating power of "western" countries versus our vodka-drinking friends.

MaX.

Yeah your probably right, Max...... If we cut there access to the western internet market they will cut off their supply of oil and gas. Oh and of course the Vodka! Lol 

[PiBoSo]

By the way, if the server only allows for a certain bike category (e.g. GP500), then it should check that the players connecting do have installed only the bikes of that category: what's the point of obliging to have the other bikes ? That's something Piboso may want to change, even if it won't solve the whole problem.

This is what should already happen: only bikes of the set category are checked.

[Alby46]

By the way, if the server only allows for a certain bike category (e.g. GP500), then it should check that the players connecting do have installed only the bikes of that category: what's the point of obliging to have the other bikes ? That's something Piboso may want to change, even if it won't solve the whole problem.

This is what should already happen: only bikes of the set category are checked.

in fact two days ago i didn't have the rgv 500 installed and i couldn't join pete's server

[SwarleyRuiz]

Aham... Internet is not freedom. Talk with SKIDROW, ThePirateBay or similar. 

these people are "cyber criminals" change every 9 or 10 months hosting and domain, is crazy and a waste of money, to avoid the law. They make money from advertising and waste that money in change hosting and domain.

[HornetMaX]

By the way, if the server only allows for a certain bike category (e.g. GP500), then it should check that the players connecting do have installed only the bikes of that category: what's the point of obliging to have the other bikes ? That's something Piboso may want to change, even if it won't solve the whole problem.

This is what should already happen: only bikes of the set category are checked.

Excellent then ! Does it also works with "user-created"  categories ?

Guess the ones having trouble were then referring to the "Open"  servers, where you have to have all the bikes.

I not upload to my website, downloads  that are copies of other games (circuit, skin, 3d models) for fear that close the web.

Minor risk if your website only references that content, in my opinion.

Notice however that as soon as you have a web-site, it is normal for your provider/host  (and hence for the authorities, if needed) to know your coordinates.

If you use file hosting services however (Mega and similar), it's much harder for people to go back to you.
Still doable, but hard enough to make it not interesting except exceptional cases.

Big companies (actually big industry sectors) may want to sue Mega or similar, not individual users.

Aham... Internet is not freedom. Talk with SKIDROW, ThePirateBay or similar. 

Hackers existed way before the internet. It's not internet that makes them free: it's that they love to play with fire and get away with it, combined with the fact that they are pretty smart.
If you want to give it a try go ahead. But you have to be sure about what you do.

To give you a fairly simple example, in France plenty of people downloading innocent stuff (movies, tv series etc) using p2p have been receiving letters stating that at the 3rd warning they would go to court. There are ways to avoid the issue, but if you decide to play, then you have to play for real, because if you get caught, shit can reach the roof pretty quickly.

By the way, would you be happy if SKIDROW released a keygen for GPB ?

MaX.

[Hawk]

Hi JamoZ.

The MEGA Link is dead. It takes you to mega, but a box appears saying that, "The folder link you are trying to access is no longer available."