How to seriously tarnish a 20yrs fantastic career

[Stout Johnson]

just a comment:
the brake lever is grabed by the right hand of the rider when motogp riders are on the track.
so it would be enough to touch the hand of the opponent rider to cause a braking.
its not that tiny and impossible to hit it like the pic will tell us.

That is why I wrote this:

My theory is that either Marc accidentally pulled the brake himself too strong or that Rossi hit the Forearm of Marquez in a way that caused the brake to be pulled accidentally and the handlebar to be pushed down on his right side.

[HornetMaX]

From the heli cam it seems quite possible that vale's leg has hit marc's brake (or hand on brake):

https://www.youtube.com/v/fnZwYJJ2w4E

MaX.

[Hawk]

Like they said in the investigation.... the video shows inconclusive evidence.

Hawk.

[CapeDoctor]

latest news, and this i like: 

Jorge Lorenzo has been told he cannot take part in MotoGP championship leader Valentino Rossi's Court of Arbitration for Sport hearing into a grid penalty imposed for the season's final race.
Rossi, who leads Lorenzo by seven points, was adjudged to have kicked Honda's reigning champion Marc Marquez off his bike in Malaysia last week.
He was demoted to the back of the grid for Sunday's race in Spain.
Lorenzo asked to participate in the appeal but was denied by CAS.

bloody right - as i mentioned earlier, he should never have had any say in this matter at all.
a perfect example of what would in any legitimate court proceedings be called a 'conflict of interest'.
nice one, CAS 

[HornetMaX]

Yeah, I think PR people (and team managers) at Yamaha are doing a piss poor job. Or maybe they don't have any PR, which is just as bad.

MaX.

[Vini]

Yamaha's PR is certainly a lot better than Honda's who use unconfirmed allegations in their official statements.

[CapeDoctor]

indeed - very disappointing that they used the term 'kicked' in official statements, when it was proven inconclusive. 

[HornetMaX]

Yamaha's PR is certainly a lot better than Honda's who use unconfirmed allegations in their official statements.

Honda expressed an opinion (vale kicked marc) and as said by many, it can't be confirmed nor refuted. It's their opinion: anybody can disagree on it (and maybe most do).
Notice however that in honda's note, the (supposed) kick was not the key argument: the other facts (all proved) were the main argument.

But yamaha, in letting jorge and vale open their mouths as they did (before and after the race in Sepang), just made the whole situation worse. For themselves.

Now if yamaha sides with jorge, vale is unhappy. If yamaha sides with vale, jorge is unhappy. Nice team management ...

MaX.

[Blackheart]

Yamaha's PR is certainly a lot better than Honda's who use unconfirmed allegations in their official statements.

Now runs the news that Marquez was attacked by two Italian journalists.... the truth is a bit different 

[Hawk]

Yamaha's PR is certainly a lot better than Honda's who use unconfirmed allegations in their official statements.

Now runs the news that Marquez was attacked by two Italian journalists.... the truth is a bit different 

Indeed! I heard that it was actually Marquez that attacked the Italian Journalists..... Though the journalists were being arseholes from what I read, they deserved what Marquez gave them.

Good for you Marquez, some journalists deserve a good kicking. Lol 

Hawk.

[Blackheart]

It is actually a satirical program the most famous in Italy, "le iene" it was all a joke, the Marquez (father) destroyed the camera, and he has hit the two "reporter/comedians" unfortunately for him the audio remained and proof that these Marquez are liars. 

[CapeDoctor]

funny how the two different journalist camps (SPA/ITA) spin that same story in two very different ways, lol
all i know is, i've definitely seen MM's dad losing the plot in the pits - why on earth they even allow him in the garage, beats me.
i've seen him throwing tantrums on more than one occasion, not the ideal role model if he ever wants his kids to mature, lol 

[Blackheart]

For who speak Spanish and Italian here is the full audio. 

http://www.sportmediaset.mediaset.it/motogp/motogp/motogp-le-iene-a-casa-dei-marquez-ecco-il-video_1080893-201502a.shtml

[CapeDoctor]

CAS decision just revealed - Rossi's appeal rejected, he will start from the back of the grid at Valencia. 

edit - added link - http://www.motogp.com/en/news/2015/11/05/cas-dismiss-request-by-rossi/188894

[HornetMaX]

I don't see how the CAS could have decided anything else: there was absolutely no basis for the appeal.

I still consider that Vale is better off as is (i.e 7pts lead but start last) compared to the other possible situations (only 4pts lead but qualify normally, as if he had finished Sepang 4th, or 9pts behind jorge and qualify normally, as if he had been DQ in Sepang).